Why not just no Mind Control on workers?
So if this happens the game is over? And that player who got their worker stolen wins?
Why not just no Mind Control on workers?oops, I meant to write that "on workers" bit but forgot. thanks!
It actual takes minimal effort to block a base in with cans temps reavers. P is the by far the easiest and most overpowered race on a fastest map.yup
Next rule will be “no probe glitch recalls” I bet. Noobs (no offence but it’s true) making rules about what way you can use units is just crazy and is eventually gonna ruin the game.
Next rule will be “no probe glitch recalls” I bet. Noobs (no offence but it’s true) making rules about what way you can use units is just crazy and is eventually gonna ruin the game.
If you guys in any way thinks it fair to take away a units ability in the game then you’re beyond retarded. Live.sword you are a fool for letting premier ruin this league. There’s no one even good enough to use mc besides me THATS y they will say “no mc” .... it’s funny how a bunch of bench warmers make these stupid rules up. And cole if p is so ez then why do I rape you pvp all the time?? This league is now a joke..
YupIf you guys in any way thinks it fair to take away a units ability in the game then you’re beyond retarded. Live.sword you are a fool for letting premier ruin this league. There’s no one even good enough to use mc besides me THATS y they will say “no mc” .... it’s funny how a bunch of bench warmers make these stupid rules up. And cole if p is so ez then why do I rape you pvp all the time?? This league is now a joke..
Can you convince us mind control does not break the balance of the game more than protoss itself on FMP already does?
For how easy it is to MC an enemy worker, the pay-off is just way too big. You get to play a form of 2v1 with it. You as an avid 2s player should know the implications of this.
well i'm done argueing with you idiots. its pointless u noobs r just gonna do what u wanna do and ruin the game but w/e. Sword your statment just proves that you're singleing me out by removing mc because no one else is good enough to use it in games... why should it matter if I'M the only one who uses it? because you single me out. plain and simple. This league is a fucking joke and i won't be playing 1's in this trashy ass run league anymore. gl fucking the whole game up idiots.. PCECry loser
well i'm done argueing with you idiots. its pointless u noobs r just gonna do what u wanna do and ruin the game but w/e. Sword your statment just proves that you're singleing me out by removing mc because no one else is good enough to use it in games... why should it matter if I'M the only one who uses it? because you single me out. plain and simple. This league is a fucking joke and i won't be playing 1's in this trashy ass run league anymore. gl fucking the whole game up idiots.. PCE
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.
I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.
Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.
I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.
Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.
99.999% of the time I would exactly agree with this. But I think this is an exception for several reasons:
1) the disadvantage created by this technique is exclusive to FMP only (to the extent that it is in FMP), so we should not assume it must somehow be balanced or that there must necessary be a strategy against it, especially given that it favors an already overpowered race
2) its a discrete action that you have to deliberately plan to do, and in some cases even build your gameplay around - for example, in contrast, banning lurker swarm wouldn't make sense because in some cases a player might accidentally or habitually burrow a set of units that happens to include a lurker under a swarm, etc..
3) it contradicts the very nature of StarCraft that creates a delicate balance of macro and micro. In general, no unit is so powerful that having 1 of it will change the outcome of a game. In contrast, having ONE extra unit (an SCV or a Drone) will generate 200 extra psi for your army (that does not need to be backed by workers, mind you - so it actually more than doubles your army size)
4) the possibility of mind control disrupts gameplay and strategy even when it is not used. for example, terrans can not build turrets around the map when fighting carriers; zergs cannot position hatches in the middle, due to the possibility of having the worker stolen. More generally, these races have to restrict where they can build in order to avoid having a worker stolen. So rather than promoting innovation and skill, it hampers it
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.
I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.
Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.
99.999% of the time I would exactly agree with this. But I think this is an exception for several reasons:
1) the disadvantage created by this technique is exclusive to FMP only (to the extent that it is in FMP), so we should not assume it must somehow be balanced or that there must necessary be a strategy against it, especially given that it favors an already overpowered race
2) its a discrete action that you have to deliberately plan to do, and in some cases even build your gameplay around - for example, in contrast, banning lurker swarm wouldn't make sense because in some cases a player might accidentally or habitually burrow a set of units that happens to include a lurker under a swarm, etc..
3) it contradicts the very nature of StarCraft that creates a delicate balance of macro and micro. In general, no unit is so powerful that having 1 of it will change the outcome of a game. In contrast, having ONE extra unit (an SCV or a Drone) will generate 200 extra psi for your army (that does not need to be backed by workers, mind you - so it actually more than doubles your army size)
4) the possibility of mind control disrupts gameplay and strategy even when it is not used. for example, terrans can not build turrets around the map when fighting carriers; zergs cannot position hatches in the middle, due to the possibility of having the worker stolen. More generally, these races have to restrict where they can build in order to avoid having a worker stolen. So rather than promoting innovation and skill, it hampers it
1. I disagree that protoss is overpowered. I believe it to be the weakest of the 3 in late game when such a strategy is viable. The reason some people believe it to be weak and others believe it to be strong, in my humble opinion, is evidence that the power of the race is up to the individual. It definitely has an early game advantage vs a lot of the popular strategies, but there are decent hard and soft counters to these strategies that we have an archive of replays of pros executing at a high level.
2. Not sure what this one has to do with anything. Lurk swarm is more often than not (by far) a deliberate technique and is also a fine one imo, like every technique.
3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it only doubles your PSI without any extra effort if you're the same race. Otherwise you gotta build t/z production buildings in order to take advantage of the gains. If you're trying to macro 400 psi of units, you'll need more resources, so it's not entirely true you won't have to back it up with extra workers or a base.
In the case where it's PvP and it does double your army, killing the probe (correct me if I'm wrong) eliminates this. It makes sense to me that if you know such a play is possible, you shouldn't be lazy with leaving probes around to be picked up. An easy enough solution would be to keep them by cannons always like if they're outside your base so when they get MC they just die quickly. Not to mention in the mirror m/u, the same strategy is viable for both sides and you could stage a double recall to get you an enemy probe as well.
4. Always occupy expos with defensive structures or offensive unites (few rines/dras/lurks/mutas/gols) should do it, especially if you scout the possibility of an MC threat. I respectfully disagree that this constitutes hampering innovation. Massing turrets over the map isn't innovation. It's been around for a minute. Keeping a ghost near your scvs to lockdown a dark archon or one of your SCVs when it gets MCd is, in contrast, innovative in this context. It sounds like a lot of these use cases could be prevented by just keeping track of your army.
IMO, the threat of MC only increases the importance that you know what your opponent is doing and that you have control/visibility of the map. These are things that are imperative to compete at a high level anyway.
2. Not sure what this one has to do with anything. Lurk swarm is more often than not (by far) a deliberate technique and is also a fine one imo, like every technique.It has to do with it that it is easy to avoid. Its not a gameplay restriction in the sense that you have to go out of your way to ensure you are within the restriction. Just don't build a second race and youre fine. Everything else is fair game.
4. Always occupy expos with defensive structures or offensive unites (few rines/dras/lurks/mutas/gols) should do it, especially if you scout the possibility of an MC threat. I respectfully disagree that this constitutes hampering innovation. Massing turrets over the map isn't innovation. It's been around for a minute. Keeping a ghost near your scvs to lockdown a dark archon or one of your SCVs when it gets MCd is, in contrast, innovative in this context. It sounds like a lot of these use cases could be prevented by just keeping track of your army.
3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it only doubles your PSI without any extra effort if you're the same race. Otherwise you gotta build t/z production buildings in order to take advantage of the gains. If you're trying to macro 400 psi of units, you'll need more resources, so it's not entirely true you won't have to back it up with extra workers or a base.
Race stats from last season:
PvZ:
65.188% vs 34.811%
PvT:
66.987% vs 33.012%
Protoss is clearly advantaged no matter how we might try to spin it. That doesn't mean that anyone's protoss is unbeatable by a better player, but when you get protoss, you start with a lead that the other player will need to play extra hard in order to make up for. Allowing mind control will only perpetuate this advantage.
The difference with this strategy is that you only need to succeed once, and this binary outcome is what causes the imbalance. The thing that makes the game great is that every action has a benefit and a cost, and you need to weigh your options accordingly based on quality and quantity. For example, if I attempt 10 templar drops but my opponent puts effort into stopping them such that only 1 or 2 succeed, they paid an investment in drop defense but prevented damage to their economy due to the fact that most of the drops failed. In contrast, in order to get 400 psi, I only need to succeed once. If I really insist on taking an SCV, unless my opponent doesn't build outside of their base at all, as long as the game lasts long enough, and I try enough times, I will get one. Your suggestion of putting defense around the SCVs may appear to work in theory, but the fact is that the logistics of the situation favor the SCV thief, and not you. Its simply not practical. They can fail 99 out of 100 times to take an SCV, succeed once, and reap the same benefits as though you didn't put in any defense at all. And regardless of what it cost, it doesn't matter, they will still get the extra 200 psi. This not only encourages really long games and turtling, but it disrupts the cost/benefit balance of relevant strategies.
At that stage in the game, money is generally not an issue, its about the combination of 200 units that you choose to make and how you use them. Having the extra 200 revokes any chance the opponent has of competing. No game has ever lasted longer than 10-15 minutes after the opponent has built the new raceWe can't really be making assumptions about which stage of the game it's happening. We see really effective DT rushes before 7 minutes. Money would be an issue here, not to mention you'd need to fill out the tech tree of a non-mirror race to be effective with them. Also this argument is based off the presumption that they automatically get an extra 200 food, and I don't believe that's the case. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they have to build out enough food in a non-mirror matchup to make use of it, and they can't do it with pylons.
I'm not sure this is sufficient evidence. For instance, in the old pro scene, terran had a statistical disadvantage such as you pointed out. But Flash and others innovated the various matchups to the point where now it's statistically advantageous to play as terran if you use those strategies. I think it's entirely plausible and likely that such strategies will be found for z and t that give them statistically significant gains in the future. I think our community is small enough that homogenous gameplay from users can contribute to a lot of that.
I think this is a vanity metric, in that it lacks substance to really get anything useful out of. It'd be really interesting if we got more granular with our analytics. I bet that is the key to z and t overcoming this deficit.
I'm pretty sure that terran MC units need terran food, like supply depots. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This alone is a huge obstacle for someone using this MC strategy to overcome, especially when your opponent isn't just sitting around. Not to mention if you create a focused attack on the location where the MC "infestation" has occurred, you can eliminate the threat. It's simply a tactic that manufactures a sense of urgency, just like a doom drop but over a longer scope of time.
We can't really be making assumptions about which stage of the game it's happening. We see really effective DT rushes before 7 minutes. Money would be an issue here, not to mention you'd need to fill out the tech tree of a non-mirror race to be effective with them. Also this argument is based off the presumption that they automatically get an extra 200 food, and I don't believe that's the case. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they have to build out enough food in a non-mirror matchup to make use of it, and they can't do it with pylons.
MC on workers should definately be banned, but you definately shouldn't be race locked as R. people should be allowed to pick what race they think they'd have the greatest chance winning, ESPECIALLY since there is prize money
edit: i think race locking people as R defeats the purpose of evening things out for other races by banning MC
Haha.... this is my point of view. When Brain and RAbbit played eachother they only made it PvT and TvP, they both knew that if they got z, theyd pretty much lose... Idk why u ppl are afraid of ppl picking P ? Comn....
Borrrrrringgggggggg. Picking matchups removes so much from the game. There's no need to scout as you know what your opponent is. You've basically decided your strategy before the game even starts as you don't need to scout. Then mirror matchups are just boring in general, especially PvP. TvT can be fun until the long game and same with ZvZ. ZvZ is good until lurker swarm comes out and then both zergs just trade armies into lurker/swarm.
Playing RvR makes you think and react to a different race. You're forced to scout and change game play throughout. That way you don't get into robot mode and play PvP over and over again doing the same thing. No one wants to see that. Even during Rabbit's and Brain's games I found them boring. They did the same things every single game over and over again. Whoever picked protoss would just midbuild and go into the same tech after. They just did that for 10 games in a row. That's not fun to play or to watch.
Borrrrrringgggggggg. Picking matchups removes so much from the game. There's no need to scout as you know what your opponent is. You've basically decided your strategy before the game even starts as you don't need to scout. Then mirror matchups are just boring in general, especially PvP. TvT can be fun until the long game and same with ZvZ. ZvZ is good until lurker swarm comes out and then both zergs just trade armies into lurker/swarm.
Playing RvR makes you think and react to a different race. You're forced to scout and change game play throughout. That way you don't get into robot mode and play PvP over and over again doing the same thing. No one wants to see that. Even during Rabbit's and Brain's games I found them boring. They did the same things every single game over and over again. Whoever picked protoss would just midbuild and go into the same tech after. They just did that for 10 games in a row. That's not fun to play or to watch.
The diversity is fun and it shows true skill.
Curious on how the brackets will look like. Will it be something like first place vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th? Players at top should have An advantage. World Cup followed a similar format
Curious on how the brackets will look like. Will it be something like first place vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th? Players at top should have An advantage. World Cup followed a similar format
That's all covered in the first post on this thread
Will there be a cast for the playoffs? Is there even interest in a cast? I could provide the stream and co-cast, but would need a co-caster that has knowledge about 1on1, since I do not play 1on1 on Fastest. I mean technically I could still cast this alone, if no one wants to, but some expertise would be nice. Would probably be a replay cast, since I know of the scheduling issues within the fastest scene. Just see the clanwars xddI think Momo or Seba would be good co-caster
i think the prize pool is too big for rank 1. rank 2 is also pretty good i think this should be 500 for rank 1 300 for rank 2 and 150 for rank 3 its the most fair.
if u ask me then no or atleast give more money to 2s competitioni think the prize pool is too big for rank 1. rank 2 is also pretty good i think this should be 500 for rank 1 300 for rank 2 and 150 for rank 3 its the most fair.
Curren't distribution seems about right if you ask me ^^.
So if I should cast this I would need the replays pretty fast and it would be nice if people would not spoil their result, instead post it to the organizers per PM or so? I mean this should be more exciting, but ye, maybe that is not feasible in this community where bragging is all that people do :D
Ok well then would be nice if someone could supply me with the replays as soon as possible. I will announce the stream date when I have the reps. Anyone willing to jump into as a cocaster is more than welcome. Just write me a PM or write in BNet to me (aka Red.Seed).
What are the sets for bracket play? I see you state the final is B09, but nothing for the initial rounds.
Can I play in tournament?
Can I play in tournament?
Can I play in tournament?
Kokanee is household name in Korea. Guarantee il crush brain
Maybe have a referee or something for the finals or semi finals. Had a game today where Jose kept unpausing when I needed to pause. Just to prevent b.s like this
this play off is wrong, it is assumed that the one who remains in first place only waits for the winner of the 2nd can but this is really stupid, it is not understood, how the first place has to participate in round 3? really stupid the last season the first place waited only the second to decide the real winner because it is an effort that performs, now it is useless to be first and have so many games.
this play off is wrong, it is assumed that the one who remains in first place only waits for the winner of the 2nd can but this is really stupid, it is not understood, how the first place has to participate in round 3? really stupid the last season the first place waited only the second to decide the real winner because it is an effort that performs, now it is useless to be first and have so many games.
Oh nooooooooo!! You cant just keep dodging brain!!!! Poor Jose. What's next... Asking to ban Brain from the tournament?? 😉
😂😂😂😂
So are you mr. “I just got a house and a 401k” but can’t afford a new computer lol.620k
Mamba 4-1 vs Resoud
Made a new bracket to fix some issues the older one had. NEW BRACKET (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Made a new bracket to fix some issues the older one had. NEW BRACKET (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
why not reported a lose games ?
I will sub in
I raped buu last night , so advance me to next round
I will sub in
If you had been ranked 9 this season that would've been an option. But considering you're ranked 255 or something that's out of the question. If we were to considering subbing it would either be Sadistic)new... or Bungeegum. But before I consider that I want to explore other options that participants agree with it.
Fuck ur stupid tournament
I will sub in
If you had been ranked 9 this season that would've been an option. But considering you're ranked 255 or something that's out of the question. If we were to considering subbing it would either be Sadistic)new... or Bungeegum. But before I consider that I want to explore other options that participants agree with it.
I would give them like 4 days. If it comes time to sub someone in, I would vote for bungee instead of sadistic - due to sadistic attempting to abuse his way in the top 8
I am connected from Tuesday.@kon
I also sent a message to kon (PM)
How would you run it instead, Matt?
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?
Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.
Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?
Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.
Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.
Well that makes no sense if evil can’t play this weekend n kon can y just not wait till Monday to play unless they can play tonight?
how can u remove matches when it wasnt even supposed to start until the 3rd?
Season ends July 29, 23:59:59/11:59:59 PM website time(GMT-4). Playoffs officially start August 3 at 2:00 PM/14:00 Website time(GMT-4). Players can play their matches before this date if their opponent is online. The playoffs start officially on August 3 because of the different time zones players are in.
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?
Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.
Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.
Well that makes no sense if evil can’t play this weekend n kon can y just not wait till Monday to play unless they can play tonight?
There are a lot of matches to be played. Even if Kon and Evil were to play tonight EviL would end up stopping the loser bracket from progressing because he can't play. It is the first round of the tournament. Waiting for EviL until tuesday, which is the date EviL said he can play, not monday, we'd basically be moving the entire tournament to tuesday. Problem is tournament starts on Friday. Only actual option available right now is DQ for EviL if Kon shows up on Friday. And don't get me wrong. I absolutely hate doing this because I considered EviL a top contender in the tournament. Kon too.
Because the tournament should start on Friday,But official start time is on the 3rd
The tournament had to start from the end of season scw the Monday 12am.
I would give only 2 days to play and if non an appearance so they are eliminated. but wait until Friday is ilogical. If kon did not appear in these days eliminate him and down to lower bracker and put now play evil vs Buu at once, evil has been since Monday.
Because the tournament should start on Friday,But official start time is on the 3rd
The tournament had to start from the end of season scw the Monday 12am.
I would give only 2 days to play and if non an appearance so they are eliminated. but wait until Friday is ilogical. If kon did not appear in these days eliminate him and down to lower bracker and put now play evil vs Buu at once, evil has been since Monday.
ill accept to be the replacement of evil-
ill accept to be the replacement of evil-
Added FiRe.BungeeGum into the tournament. Remove Pro]EviL- from the tournament.
https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20 (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
From this point onwards there will be no more replacements. An inability to play will from this point onwards result in a forfeit.
evil said he would be here today? what are you doing? he said he cant compete this weekend but last night he told kon he would play tonight. Literally the worst tournament host I have ever saw.
i can play later on tonight or the morning... i get off in 4 hrs wprking OT.Aight. All up to kon from here on.
Premier my number one priority in life isn’t Starcraft. People appreciate what you’re trying to do for the league but you need to take a step back. I have bought my first place and am renovating and trying to move in. That’s my number one priority along with working full time, coaching soccer and my girlfriend. It technically just started today so relax.I know that, no need to say all that. We need round 1 to be played so everyone else can play too. If you're unable to participate within a specific time frame because of other priorities, like EviL- for example, it would only be fair I point out that the tournament can only adapt to an individual's needs to a certain degree. If the degree of changing to an individual's needs exceeds what's fair to the other participants a removal is the only fair option. I hope your moving into the place and everything goes smoothly and without trouble by the way.
Pedro I’ll be able to get on tomorrow morning to play our games.
noob brain damage
loser of round 1 should play together,
also bung vs resoud
round 2 john vs loser of kon or buu
round 3 mamba vs loser of game jose or kon or buu
thanx newbie
noob brain damage
loser of round 1 should play together,
also bung vs resoud
round 2 john vs loser of kon or buu
round 3 mamba vs loser of game jose or kon or buu
thanx newbie
Go away momo learn PP please
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao
mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao
mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob
Every season, you’re terrified of me.
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao
mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob
Every season, you’re terrified of me.
OFC, go ask monte or tyga or matt or peter to care u , u are rly stupid as ppl say abt u trash player
Just wanna give premier a shout out for continuing to organize this tournament. Most people wouldn't take half the effort. Ignore the haters and keep doing what you're doing, there's still a lot of us who appreciate it.
Fuck your tournamentThanks man.
Fuck your tournamentl
Premier you're doing a good job, but I think its a bit much. top 8 is kinda lengthy tournament.
The top 8 was my idea. Those pitchforks can be redirected my way
Only 1 hour remaining, be sure to tune in over at https://www.twitch.tv/to_creativee
In the meantime you can watch the intro for the play offs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcmXj-7kVis
I've asked bungeegum a couple times to also report his wins vs Kon because Red.Seed needs them for his casting streams PLUS I need them for documentation. Could you anyone else who obsed Kon vs Bungeegum please report them in his stead so I can send Red.Seed the replays? They should be in the autosave folder.
@BeaTz-
Usually there's two or three weeks between seasons.
I've asked bungeegum a couple times to also report his wins vs Kon because Red.Seed needs them for his casting streams PLUS I need them for documentation. Could you anyone else who obsed Kon vs Bungeegum please report them in his stead so I can send Red.Seed the replays? They should be in the autosave folder.
@BeaTz-
Usually there's two or three weeks between seasons.
Yeah just summer almost over and it’s pretty active right now.
The Results of Xtre-Kon vs FiRe.Buu have been reversed. Xtre-Kon has been disqualified for letting someone else play in his stead. FiRe.Buu will by default of Kon's forfeiture move to Round 3 to play against GanGstEr]JoSe.
Pro]EviL- was removed for his inability to play Xtre-Kon over the weekend last week. Because Xtre-Kon has been disqualified it would feel only fair to Give Pro]EviL- another chance. But given the tournament has slighly progressed on the Winner side, Pro]EviL- will be placed in the Loser Round 1 against Resoud.
I hope the remainder of the tournament progresses without issues and it all happens within the boundaries of the rules.
> Bracket update 7 < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)Next Matches:
Fire.Buu vs GanGstEr]JoSe.
Pro]EviL- vs Resoud
(https://i.imgur.com/RezVOVX.png)
pretty sure obs cheating or hacking is much worse. these games were played straight up. buu got wrecked every m/u
Evil, Jose let’s get these games running boys
11 days and still fight loool. sad "tourney"
Evil played resoud last night. They still have to upload their games here
sorry for posting this here just wanted to ask premier do u know this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wMdqmWEB4 ?
JoSe. vs Buu and EviL- vs Mamba have to be played today. I will set at time around which I want all of you to be online. The goal of today is to play JoSe. vs Buu, EviL- vs Mamba, JohnW1ck vs Jose/Buu and maybe Brain vs Jose/Buu. It would be awesome if people could play more than this, but this is the goal today. This way we can hopefully finish the tournament before Friday. No more stalling and more communication from the players.
11:00AM-02:00PM/11:00-14:00 Website time/Eastern standard time. Please try your hardest to be online within or around this time-frame. Being a little late is fine.
JoSe. vs Buu and EviL- vs Mamba have to be played today. I will set at time around which I want all of you to be online. The goal of today is to play JoSe. vs Buu, EviL- vs Mamba, JohnW1ck vs Jose/Buu and maybe Brain vs Jose/Buu. It would be awesome if people could play more than this, but this is the goal today. This way we can hopefully finish the tournament before Friday. No more stalling and more communication from the players.
11:00AM-02:00PM/11:00-14:00 Website time/Eastern standard time. Please try your hardest to be online within or around this time-frame. Being a little late is fine.
Your fascination with evil is astounding. Our series would be played by now, but he dodged because he "didnt feel like playing". Now you give grown men less than 1 days notice to come play. Lets see how you handle another case of inactivity.
So is evil getting d/q or what
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)
This!! It’s so active lately
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)
This!! It’s so active lately
saturday
^this is why RvR is bullshit and always has been
If I'm to take the result of the league as some sort of measure of ability then yes. If not pick vs pick it should be a rotation of the nine matchups with one scratch each to shorten the series. Spot rng is bad enough, why add more to a game that is built on having almost none. Honestly if the rvr mechanic wasn't broken with the super rare mirror it would be fine but having a third of all games being a one sided matchup is dumb. And why are mirror matches just excluded in this community? They are some of the best SC games.
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!
Person X claims quantity of collective imaginary currency makes Person X a superior individual compared to Person Y who is superior at Activity A. Person X does not understand that collective imaginary currency and Person X are separate things and neither can change the core essence of the other. Nor does quantity of collective imaginary currency have relevance to Person Y being superior at Activity A.
Premier, shut up.... dont act smart.Dano, shut up.... dont act dumb.
Let me try again, shut up nerd.'
^this is why RvR is bullshit and always has been
Welcome to the "official SCW season 6 Playoffs thread".
When?
- Season ends July 29, 23:59:59/11:59:59 PM website time(GMT-4). Playoffs officially start August 3 at 2:00 PM/14:00 Website time(GMT-4). Players can play their matches before this date if their opponent is online. The playoffs start officially on August 3 because of the different time zones players are in.
Prizes
- 1st place reward = $600
- 2nd place reward = $250
- 3rd place reward = $100
Bracket information
- Top 8 ranks are seeded in playoffs.
- Playoffs Bracket (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20). Click "here" (https://i.imgur.com/80c5QG2.png) for Example with info.
- All sets are Best of 7. Main bracket winner has to win one Bo9 set in grand final to win tournament. If Losers final winner wins Bo9 in Grand final, the score resets to zero. The Grand finalists will then have to play a Bo7 to determine the winner
Entries:
(https://i.imgur.com/LoriXwr.png)
Rules
- All matches will be played on the OFFICIAL SCW 6 maps. (can be found here (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=joinleague))
- All matches are RANDOM vs RANDOM, unless both players agree it is oke to pick.
- Leaving at the start, unless it can be proven your opponent picked a race without an agreement, or started while you were "away from keyboard", will results in a loss.
- Disconnecting will result in a loss, unless it can be proven in the replay that you were winning up until the point of disconnection. Players are to provide evidence or a witness that their enemy disconnected. Make a screenshot of your opponent disconnecting.
- NO MIND CONTROL ON WORKERS
- NO HARD BM ON THE PLAYOFF THREADS. SOFT BM IS ALLOWED.
- Report and upload matches in the report thread.
Other info:
- Please use this thread to let other players know when you are online and when you can be online. Please plan your matches together with the other players.
- Second post contains match log
- Hosted by PreMier & Live.swOrD
- Special thanks to donators: Momo85, Live.SwOrD, PreMier, and Anonymous donator.
Did as Sword instructed me to do on the bracket reset. Bracket/score reset is common in a lot of esports for the grand final. Winner bracket grand finalist did not lose a set and is up a bo7. The loser grand finalist is down a Bo7. Winner grand finalist has to keep the advantage gained from winning winners bracket. Putting them on even grounds is unfair. But if Sword wants to reduce the number of matches for the Grand Final I am ok with that. I am also ok with making it a Bo7 into Bo7. I am ok with removing the two set rule for loser grand finalist if Sword wants to. It will be ehat sword wants it to be.
Bo7 was chosen because of all prior matches being Bo7 and the initial difference being "A bo7 up/down" on the opponent. But you raise a fair point. Alternatives could be giving the Winner grand finalist a lead over the Loser finalist like they did with early SC2 MLG. Any the main point is that the Winner grand finalist should have an advantage.Did as Sword instructed me to do on the bracket reset. Bracket/score reset is common in a lot of esports for the grand final. Winner bracket grand finalist did not lose a set and is up a bo7. The loser grand finalist is down a Bo7. Winner grand finalist has to keep the advantage gained from winning winners bracket. Putting them on even grounds is unfair. But if Sword wants to reduce the number of matches for the Grand Final I am ok with that. I am also ok with making it a Bo7 into Bo7. I am ok with removing the two set rule for loser grand finalist if Sword wants to. It will be ehat sword wants it to be.
it should always be bo9 into bo9 or bo7 into bo7, should the bracket be reset by the person coming from losers bracket. i've never seen set 1 of GF have a different number of games than set 2 of GF, that would just add unnecessary confusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHl9FceaLk
his account is headflower and hes raping leeboku
Jose, when can you be online? Can some1 ask Brain when he can be online?
Im working but today 9:30 pm time from Perú
Brain said he could not play at 9:30 PM (21:30) Lima Time = 11:30 AM (11:30) Next Day Seoul Time.sunday 11 am time from peru i can't play another day
Jose. what time can you play on Friday?
Brain said he could not play at 9:30 PM (21:30) Lima Time = 11:30 AM (11:30) Next Day Seoul Time.sunday 11 am time from peru i can't play another day
Jose. what time can you play on Friday?
im online
ur tag name is shity bro change itim online
what time can you be online today?
JoSe. Please try to be online earlier today.}im online now gogogogogogo
replays?https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?topic=543.30