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Title: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Carvusis on July 11, 2022, 01:13:04 am
Or just your opinion on how the replays go? Seems like you like to please your friends in sc like Gus Joe and the majority of scw players. If it's not based on actually evidence of maphack then you need to step down as admin. In that case you need to look into Koreans and Tom who have similar gameplay and makes it questionable.

If evidence was found. What hack version brand was used? Joe and Gus looked into it and they couldn't find a way to hack remast.

Wouldn't be surprised if you try to ban or retribute for someone actually speaking up. Seems like people just kiss your behind in channel to get rights on scw not for your fair gameplay rules or gaming skill or admin skill/respect.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: UltrA- on July 11, 2022, 01:25:55 am
Plz sword show all what hack i used show evidences i have been playing 17 years AND i never used hack on all my life plz for respect all my clan u should show the evidence thanks
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: FaINeR on July 11, 2022, 01:48:18 am
https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=2&gid=916 (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=2&gid=916)

Sword think this rep is a proof.  Jose spreads the cannons from 12 to 1 because he already knows that they are not 2 prottos without having been  scouting.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Think-Fast on July 11, 2022, 02:18:08 am
I'm not sure I believe this. I've parted jose a bunch of times and he's been caught off guard many times. For example he will d his main right off the bat and just go two gate if he sees an ov. Thats a typical reaction vs cr ling rush. Not vs 9 pool speed. And its happened a few times vs opponents 9 pooling instead of cr ling. When we played vs evil and peter pz vs pt, he said go to attack evils choke with mutas and ground and we practically wasted half of our army bc evil was mass d as t and had mass cans from his part.  As far as if he selectively hacks in 1v1, I don't think so. Otherwise, how would he have lost to dingo pvt across map when dingo did an mm rush and took his choke? It would be easy to just make one or two more cans and no one would say you hack....but he didn't on time and lost
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on July 11, 2022, 02:27:53 am
jose has been caught hacking in past ses
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: HyDrA on July 11, 2022, 02:32:47 am
Or just your opinion on how the replays go? Seems like you like to please your friends in sc like Gus Joe and the majority of scw players. If it's not based on actually evidence of maphack then you need to step down as admin. In that case you need to look into Koreans and Tom who have similar gameplay and makes it questionable.

If evidence was found. What hack version brand was used? Joe and Gus looked into it and they couldn't find a way to hack remast.

Wouldn't be surprised if you try to ban or retribute for someone actually speaking up. Seems like people just kiss your behind in channel to get rights on scw not for your fair gameplay rules or gaming skill or admin skill/respect.

you mention my name so much. want my autograph? lol
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: LivE.SworD on July 11, 2022, 03:27:54 am
Or just your opinion on how the replays go? Seems like you like to please your friends in sc like Gus Joe and the majority of scw players. If it's not based on actually evidence of maphack then you need to step down as admin. In that case you need to look into Koreans and Tom who have similar gameplay and makes it questionable.

If evidence was found. What hack version brand was used? Joe and Gus looked into it and they couldn't find a way to hack remast.

Wouldn't be surprised if you try to ban or retribute for someone actually speaking up. Seems like people just kiss your behind in channel to get rights on scw not for your fair gameplay rules or gaming skill or admin skill/respect.

Pleasing you nerds is close to the bottom of my list of priorities. You're not wrong though in that there are other cheaters; please send me whatever evidence you have and I'll look into it.

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I'm not sure I believe this. I've parted jose a bunch of times and he's been caught off guard many times. For example he will d his main right off the bat and just go two gate if he sees an ov. Thats a typical reaction vs cr ling rush. Not vs 9 pool speed. And its happened a few times vs opponents 9 pooling instead of cr ling. When we played vs evil and peter pz vs pt, he said go to attack evils choke with mutas and ground and we practically wasted half of our army bc evil was mass d as t and had mass cans from his part.  As far as if he selectively hacks in 1v1, I don't think so. Otherwise, how would he have lost to dingo pvt across map when dingo did an mm rush and took his choke? It would be easy to just make one or two more cans and no one would say you hack....but he didn't on time and lost

We have to avoid the fallacy of thinking that because someone cheats, they do it every game. Getting help from observers even just one game and utilizing it to win the game unfairly is bad enough to justify this suspension. There is zero tolerance for getting an unfair advantage in games by any means, whether its hacking, getting help from observers, or stream sniping, whether it be a single game or every game.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Carvusis on July 11, 2022, 03:33:10 am
Or just your opinion on how the replays go? Seems like you like to please your friends in sc like Gus Joe and the majority of scw players. If it's not based on actually evidence of maphack then you need to step down as admin. In that case you need to look into Koreans and Tom who have similar gameplay and makes it questionable.

If evidence was found. What hack version brand was used? Joe and Gus looked into it and they couldn't find a way to hack remast.

Wouldn't be surprised if you try to ban or retribute for someone actually speaking up. Seems like people just kiss your behind in channel to get rights on scw not for your fair gameplay rules or gaming skill or admin skill/respect.

Pleasing you nerds is close to the bottom of my list of priorities. You're not wrong though in that there are other cheaters; please send me whatever evidence you have and I'll look into it.

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I'm not sure I believe this. I've parted jose a bunch of times and he's been caught off guard many times. For example he will d his main right off the bat and just go two gate if he sees an ov. Thats a typical reaction vs cr ling rush. Not vs 9 pool speed. And its happened a few times vs opponents 9 pooling instead of cr ling. When we played vs evil and peter pz vs pt, he said go to attack evils choke with mutas and ground and we practically wasted half of our army bc evil was mass d as t and had mass cans from his part.  As far as if he selectively hacks in 1v1, I don't think so. Otherwise, how would he have lost to dingo pvt across map when dingo did an mm rush and took his choke? It would be easy to just make one or two more cans and no one would say you hack....but he didn't on time and lost

We have to avoid the fallacy of thinking that because someone cheats, they do it every game. Getting help from observers even just one game and utilizing it to win the game unfairly is bad enough to justify this suspension. There is zero tolerance for getting an unfair advantage in games by any means, whether its hacking, getting help from observers, or stream sniping, whether it be a single game or every game.

Sounds like no hard proof evidence was found hence it not being shown. "Evidence found beyond a reasonable doubt," doubt you're a lawyer aren't you supposed to be in computer degree or something? What version of hack? Was there a conversation for ohs cheat?

Sounds like all this is based on your opinion not on reliable evidence that can be explained... Not sure how you're an admin or running a league...seems fallacy and biased based nothing reliable.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: RoNin on July 11, 2022, 03:50:06 am
carvisus you are legit a moron can you find something better to do than to just troll a forum 24/7?

anyway, you can find hacks, theres even a discord for it moron you just have to pay for it
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Carvusis on July 11, 2022, 04:52:13 am
carvisus you are legit a moron can you find something better to do than to just troll a forum 24/7?

anyway, you can find hacks, theres even a discord for it moron you just have to pay for it

*Crickets* another noob that doesn't know how to spell or use proper grammar. Go back to fake photography and get a life. Many people agree with this statement concerning sword and his biasness in the league.

Ronin you're statements are not worth addressing. Wasting my breath.

@Tom I'm not a fan of has beens when you've been a proven hacker.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: UltrA- on July 11, 2022, 06:25:50 am
jose has been caught hacking in past ses
Jamás fui atrapado en ninguna otra ligar por hack, porque nunca lo usé y porque fui novato , fui aprendiendo,y mejorando mediante derrotas  porfavor nuevamente le pido a sword por respeto a todos que muestre las evidencias de hack o que yo he echo trampa con algún observador ya que yo dejo siempre a los obs toda esta temporada no fui BM pero veo que eso acá no les gusta . La experiencia de uno hace que crean cosas que no son , quieren que haga stream , si gustan lo hago o que quieren para demostrar que no soy hack , gracias
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: RJBTV on July 11, 2022, 08:58:08 am
Or just your opinion on how the replays go? Seems like you like to please your friends in sc like Gus Joe and the majority of scw players. If it's not based on actually evidence of maphack then you need to step down as admin. In that case you need to look into Koreans and Tom who have similar gameplay and makes it questionable.

If evidence was found. What hack version brand was used? Joe and Gus looked into it and they couldn't find a way to hack remast.

Wouldn't be surprised if you try to ban or retribute for someone actually speaking up. Seems like people just kiss your behind in channel to get rights on scw not for your fair gameplay rules or gaming skill or admin skill/respect.

Pleasing you nerds is close to the bottom of my list of priorities. You're not wrong though in that there are other cheaters; please send me whatever evidence you have and I'll look into it.

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I'm not sure I believe this. I've parted jose a bunch of times and he's been caught off guard many times. For example he will d his main right off the bat and just go two gate if he sees an ov. Thats a typical reaction vs cr ling rush. Not vs 9 pool speed. And its happened a few times vs opponents 9 pooling instead of cr ling. When we played vs evil and peter pz vs pt, he said go to attack evils choke with mutas and ground and we practically wasted half of our army bc evil was mass d as t and had mass cans from his part.  As far as if he selectively hacks in 1v1, I don't think so. Otherwise, how would he have lost to dingo pvt across map when dingo did an mm rush and took his choke? It would be easy to just make one or two more cans and no one would say you hack....but he didn't on time and lost

We have to avoid the fallacy of thinking that because someone cheats, they do it every game. Getting help from observers even just one game and utilizing it to win the game unfairly is bad enough to justify this suspension. There is zero tolerance for getting an unfair advantage in games by any means, whether its hacking, getting help from observers, or stream sniping, whether it be a single game or every game.

Sounds like no hard proof evidence was found hence it not being shown. "Evidence found beyond a reasonable doubt," doubt you're a lawyer aren't you supposed to be in computer degree or something? What version of hack? Was there a conversation for ohs cheat?

Sounds like all this is based on your opinion not on reliable evidence that can be explained... Not sure how you're an admin or running a league...seems fallacy and biased based nothing reliable.

There are numerous instances of both Jose and Dingo cheating with observers or watching the livestream of their opponents.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on July 11, 2022, 08:58:56 am
Get owned cheaters hahaha
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: UltrA- on July 11, 2022, 09:11:20 am
Or just your opinion on how the replays go? Seems like you like to please your friends in sc like Gus Joe and the majority of scw players. If it's not based on actually evidence of maphack then you need to step down as admin. In that case you need to look into Koreans and Tom who have similar gameplay and makes it questionable.

If evidence was found. What hack version brand was used? Joe and Gus looked into it and they couldn't find a way to hack remast.

Wouldn't be surprised if you try to ban or retribute for someone actually speaking up. Seems like people just kiss your behind in channel to get rights on scw not for your fair gameplay rules or gaming skill or admin skill/respect.

Pleasing you nerds is close to the bottom of my list of priorities. You're not wrong though in that there are other cheaters; please send me whatever evidence you have and I'll look into it.

Quote
I'm not sure I believe this. I've parted jose a bunch of times and he's been caught off guard many times. For example he will d his main right off the bat and just go two gate if he sees an ov. Thats a typical reaction vs cr ling rush. Not vs 9 pool speed. And its happened a few times vs opponents 9 pooling instead of cr ling. When we played vs evil and peter pz vs pt, he said go to attack evils choke with mutas and ground and we practically wasted half of our army bc evil was mass d as t and had mass cans from his part.  As far as if he selectively hacks in 1v1, I don't think so. Otherwise, how would he have lost to dingo pvt across map when dingo did an mm rush and took his choke? It would be easy to just make one or two more cans and no one would say you hack....but he didn't on time and lost

We have to avoid the fallacy of thinking that because someone cheats, they do it every game. Getting help from observers even just one game and utilizing it to win the game unfairly is bad enough to justify this suspension. There is zero tolerance for getting an unfair advantage in games by any means, whether its hacking, getting help from observers, or stream sniping, whether it be a single game or every game.

Sounds like no hard proof evidence was found hence it not being shown. "Evidence found beyond a reasonable doubt," doubt you're a lawyer aren't you supposed to be in computer degree or something? What version of hack? Was there a conversation for ohs cheat?

Sounds like all this is based on your opinion not on reliable evidence that can be explained... Not sure how you're an admin or running a league...seems fallacy and biased based nothing reliable.

There are numerous instances of both Jose and Dingo cheating with observers or watching the livestream of their opponents.
Muestra algo onde yo use hack o algún observador me dice la posición del oponente, es fácil lanzar acusaciones pero difícil demostrar.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: RoNin on July 11, 2022, 10:01:29 am
Sword, I think its justified to remove all of Jose and his partner's 2v2 games this season as well.

That means you think-fast
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: FaINeR on July 11, 2022, 10:03:00 am
That seems absurd to me. There is a high percentage that many of the players here in the league have been helped by some observer without asking or was planned. And many have evidence and sword has seen it and does not ban them, he himself said it for a game he deserves that punishment. Kokane told me one day that risen got help from Joe as an obv to beat Sword. Again ronin has helped hydra a couple of times, day helping kokane once time out of 1000 games this last one is guess.

Besides Jose is something hated very difficult for an obv to help him at least some lmx enters to help him, the only ones I see in the league are koknae, dingo and goon and they just play. It will be alex who enters his games sometimes?, and if they have proof who is the obv he deserves the punishment too, right.

I keep quiet if sword tells me that it found and identified and that it is reliable an extra program that thanatoz is using hack map and takes its punishment

The proof I sent is not a joke, sword at the time or he still thinks that there is a hack on Jose's part. he think spread canon because is vs pt.

Wait I found a hack map of superwilcha a game he told me my race my spot without having explored me and it's not a joke check the rep. here the game. Sword ban him. Wait I will find more hack from other players.

https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=1&gid=1030 (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=1&gid=1030)
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: tonyG on July 11, 2022, 10:37:22 am
Bye bye scumbag trashcans. You will have to find a new way to steal money.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: ANCV on July 11, 2022, 12:02:41 pm
I agree with Fainer. Sword if you say that José received help from an observer. Why don't you ban the observer? . Sword if you say that jose is maphack then you should consider showing the proofs.

PS: tonyG why do you say that?
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on July 11, 2022, 12:07:12 pm
Ban l-mx Alex he probably bought them all hacks.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: aCe on July 11, 2022, 12:08:56 pm
I agree with Fainer. Sword if you say that José received help from an observer. Why don't you ban the observer? . Sword if you say that jose is maphack then you should consider showing the proofs.

PS: tonyG why do you say that?

how is the player not responsible for that ?

/o igw

and if you have someone in ur friendslist whos cheating for you, you deserve to be banned aswell 
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on July 11, 2022, 12:09:51 pm
Go look for yourself at the reps stone. It's true they are using cheats seeing units on map before vision. Go see for yourself. You probably knew it all along but they're your friend who covers the ass of his buddy no matter what.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: tO_cReAtiVee on July 11, 2022, 12:41:29 pm
I agree with Fainer. Sword if you say that José received help from an observer. Why don't you ban the observer? . Sword if you say that jose is maphack then you should consider showing the proofs.

PS: tonyG why do you say that?

how is the player not responsible for that ?

/o igw

and if you have someone in ur friendslist whos cheating for you, you deserve to be banned aswell

exactly. if anyone on my friendslist is obscheating, i tell them immediately to stop (thankfully only happend once or twice) and if they do not stop immediately insta-unfriend.

obs cheating is for losers and i dont want losers in my f-list. everyone should feel the same tbh.

but most latam players do not have that honor and do that regularly xD
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Ridd1cK[DFWM] on July 11, 2022, 12:43:46 pm
Who wants to bet if I pay 50$ to the guy cheating in low money for maphacks ill get it... its easy to cheat if u try.
Title: Re: Sword when You Say Jose Hacks. Did you actually find evidence?
Post by: Decaf on July 11, 2022, 02:07:11 pm
"Truth is incontrovertible, ignorance can deride it, panic may resent it, malice may destroy it, but there it is."

Bye bye JoSe  :-* :-* :-*