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GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: LetsPlaySC- on December 12, 2022, 04:40:13 am
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So i cant help myself and wonder if its a good idea to do a hardcore switch to the korean super map. Meaning to play this league only on korean map so we can do a quick transit to the map. We can attract alot of skilled players who dont want to play scw map ( low players/koreans etc ), increase players and thus skill and competition.
Just a thought but maybe people will follow this idea.
Any thoughts on this?? Maybe do a poll ?
In my opinion the transit will cost some effort and time but afterwards gonna be epic.
Anyways lets play some SC ggs hf-
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Despite this clearly being the only solution to basically every problem with SCW (other than Jose/dingo/gainer not being perma banned for being cheating scum) it will never happen. The 17 people who still play SCW will never change maps. Using micro intensive strategies isn't nearly as appealing as mass cannons to this open-minded group of gamers.
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Just kick Dingo, Jose, and Fainer everything will be fine hehe
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I've so far met about 20 pretty skilled 1v1 and 2v2/3v3 players on uswest publics alone who have heard of SCW but absolutely hate the SCW map. Players who could all compete at B+ level and above.
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It would fix 12 6 9 and 3 base imbalance quite a bit. 12 and 6 on Korean map still have slight disavdantages but nowhere near as MASSIVE as on the map you folks insist on using with a better alternative available. Zergs and Terrans vs P would have so much more room to actually express their skill instead of losing to silly imbalances. If you don't like landable hills, don't worry, I already got a version on which that is nerfed or completely not possible.
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You morons must of forgot but let me remind you. Sword ran a Korean map league with a cash prize .. not only did no westerners play no Koreans showed up either.
Sword keeps the league active for the players that continue to play in scw. You nerds are just wasting your time
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Also if you look under join league you can play scw on any map type of fastest, and yet no one plays on Korean map
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I've so far met about 20 pretty skilled 1v1 and 2v2/3v3 players on uswest publics alone who have heard of SCW but absolutely hate the SCW map. Players who could all compete at B+ level and above.
Then tell these players that you can use scw Korea map and start making your own games with them for scw . Fuck your one stupid kid premier. Shouldn’t you be busy making scans sandwich
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Would be more balanced if we going to play only the korean map.
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@Dryfly
Hey look the biggest nerd of all time is calling others nerds lmao.
Damn butthurt mf hehe.
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@Dryfly
Hey look the biggest nerd of all time is calling others nerds lmao.
Damn butthurt mf hehe.
Says the mf who contributes nothing but a toxic attitude to this league
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@Vulture
Good job dude maybe one day you'll be lucky enough to take DryFly's dick you pathetic little incel. hehe
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I've so far met about 20 pretty skilled 1v1 and 2v2/3v3 players on uswest publics alone who have heard of SCW but absolutely hate the SCW map. Players who could all compete at B+ level and above.
Then tell these players that you can use scw Korea map and start making your own games with them for scw . Fuck your one stupid kid premier. Shouldn’t you be busy making scans sandwich
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LOOOOL
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Tony g and Newport go eat each one other's dicks. Pieces of shit. Always giving a negative opinion for several seasons ago.
Sword should ban them for life for being toxic and 0 contribution to the community.
The author of the topic is proposing something and expressing his ideas. but animals like tony g and decaff are just being fucking toxic.
I have never cheated and he comes to judge me.
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Gainer played just as long as his hero's dingo and Jose but isn't even half there LVL. Go set your timers to 6 hours so you can report late and get a few extra points to secure ur spot at #40 on the ladder. Dumb little bitch
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lol
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So, to avoid confusion, i am only trying to gather information on this matter, i enjoy the league as it is aswell.
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SCW korea beta seasons (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=1v1standings&season=43)
Some people did show up. We barely had any advertising and most public players who have the skills didn't know about it at the time or were entirely inactive. Currently we have access to more channels of advertisement through Burgersasu, Rabbit, Byul, WK` clan on uswest. We could even contact By_ clan, `K clan and Top on Korea to poll whether there is currently an interest in a dedicated 1:1 League on the korean map.
Burgersasu hosted on Korea map for the first few games he played SCW this season and some asked him to switch the map, which he did.
And Kokanee, I care so little about your existence I won't bother spending more time on you than writing this once sentence addressed at you.
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You guys are thinking of a hand full of Koreans versus a whole entire league. There’s a lot of people that wouldn’t play SCW at ALL if it switched to Korean map.
But seriously we need to stop begging Koreans to join our league. I don’t get the obsession… it’s a misrepresentation of the league. We don’t need Koreans.
& anyway hydra beat gom in a finals already. So westerners have proven themselves time & time again. There’s nothing more to prove.
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zeuz whenever your lvl i will give you a chance to have an opinion till then please dont get involved.
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Maybe have two separate point league systems. One on SCW West Map and one on Korean Map. I think it'd be cool to see Koreas playing in a league with a point system to see who is the best Korean player.
And also, if a western wanted to play on Korea map, they could and vis versa.
Was pretty dope seeing Western vs Koreans on 2s.
*Want to give props to Vulture vs Gom in that PvT. Just casted it and you're P looked beastly!!
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Personally I consider that is not a bad idea to just test for ONE season ONLY korean map for 1s and 2s league.
We are really few guys still playing scw. I think just one season with korean map as a trial won't contribute to our retirement..
Also if we're not forced to use only korean map, we'll never transition to that map.
In addition i've heard many times on youtube and facebook streams that west fastest map is just unbalanced and because of that many good players don't give it a try to start playing fastest map games...
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Maybe have two separate point league systems. One on SCW West Map and one on Korean Map. I think it'd be cool to see Koreas playing in a league with a point system to see who is the best Korean player.
And also, if a western wanted to play on Korea map, they could and vis versa.
Was pretty dope seeing Western vs Koreans on 2s.
*Want to give props to Vulture vs Gom in that PvT. Just casted it and you're P looked beastly!!
Giving Korean scw another beta run seems like a good idea. There's no point to hardcore switching when most people currently active are completely content with playing the current map.
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I won’t be playing if we force Korean map on everyone. Everything changes, chokes, visions, the layout of base, your asking for ppl that have played 1 map for years to change just because the Koreans want it some other way
It’s like picking your own race, you can
Pick the map, pick your race and play. We’ve left it open choice for a while now and I for one don’t wanna learn more shit about this game. I already took time to learn bw and still fuck up on occasions
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Like I don’t understand all you people voting “yes” why don’t you just play scw on that map and only on that map. Why is it a big deal ppl like to play on the old one.
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Stop PWNING David r1ddick. You’re gonna give him a heart attack..
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Interesting to read all of your comments, so the thing is that i couldnt help myself but wonder how it would be to propose this and see how the Community react.
I enjoy this game and this League, that being said i also see 20000+ koreans on their server en too many players on us/europe/asia (5000?) who enjoy fastest (korean) map.
Im just giving it a try to bring some of that together .
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Like I don’t understand all you people voting “yes” why don’t you just play scw on that map and only on that map. Why is it a big deal ppl like to play on the old one.
Because there’s 7 yes votes with premiers IP address on all of the accounts 😂
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Lol
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Like I don’t understand all you people voting “yes” why don’t you just play scw on that map and only on that map. Why is it a big deal ppl like to play on the old one.
Because there’s 7 yes votes with premiers IP address on all of the accounts 😂
that's why I suggested and agreed to try a separate korean league beta 2.0 instead of a forced switch? Ok.
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Koreans are koka's terror
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We already give the option to play on either map.
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yeah its true the option is available for a long time already to use korean map, but nobody does it.
the thought behind hardcore switching was like Ryu also stated, we will never transition out of it, and thats fine ofcourse i just think it would be more fun if all fastest players play 1 (balanced)map.
Attract more people to this league can mean more donations, better game play etc etc.
anyways thank you all for thinking along and hopefully the starcraftworld can get a little bit bigger :)
up to sword now if he wanna run a korean beta league
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Hahaha..... this is so funny -_-
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
Does not take away the fact it is unbalanced. Win% is massively skewered in favor of spot abusers, including cases where the other player is better or close in skill.
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
Does not take away the fact it is unbalanced. Win% is massively skewered in favor of spot abusers, including cases where the other player is better or close in skill.
Because casting korean games where Protoss players use mind control to make 400psi is considered balanced and skillful in your head.
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
Does not take away the fact it is unbalanced. Win% is massively skewered in favor of spot abusers, including cases where the other player is better or close in skill.
Because casting korean games where Protoss players use mind control to make 400psi is considered balanced and skillful in your head.
Damnnn
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
Does not take away the fact it is unbalanced. Win% is massively skewered in favor of spot abusers, including cases where the other player is better or close in skill.
Because casting korean games where Protoss players use mind control to make 400psi is considered balanced and skillful in your head.
In an SCW korea beta the same scw rules would apply. So no MC. I am also strongly against MC. In my own tournaments on Korean map I've always banned mind control.
Also, Riddick you can write outside of the "quote" box.
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
Does not take away the fact it is unbalanced. Win% is massively skewered in favor of spot abusers, including cases where the other player is better or close in skill.
Because casting korean games where Protoss players use mind control to make 400psi is considered balanced and skillful in your head.
In an SCW korea beta the same scw rules would apply. So no MC. I am also strongly against MC. In my own tournaments on Korean map I've always banned mind control.
Also, Riddick you can write outside of the "quote" box.
“I’m a noob”
I do what I want
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That's to funny if people speaking about other chokes, map vision etc. on a fastest map :)
You say we always have the option to play Korean map, if I ask anyone to go for it, 95% of scw ppl cry like little kids and do not play.
I don't get it, why ppl do not want to play a way more balanced map.
Additional, if there are many people who would join the league, it would be also being much more fun.
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That's to funny if people speaking about other chokes, map vision etc. on a fastest map :)
You say we always have the option to play Korean map, if I ask anyone to go for it, 95% of scw ppl cry like little kids and do not play.
I don't get it, why ppl do not want to play a way more balanced map.
Additional, if there are many people who would join the league, it would be also being much more fun.
Where r these ppl, you think they really give af about this league..
You can act like doing this will flood in new ppl but the truth is you noobs will be on Smurf accounts and nothing will change
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Why not make a second ladder or second league?
Why mess with a good thing people have enjoyed for years in hopes of that turning out better? When that is not needed at all because you can literally copy that and then change it to korean only...
You could argue that nobody will use it then right? But does that not defeat the argument that it would increase activity? What is it now - is it more popular or not...
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That's to funny if people speaking about other chokes, map vision etc. on a fastest map :)
You say we always have the option to play Korean map, if I ask anyone to go for it, 95% of scw ppl cry like little kids and do not play.
I don't get it, why ppl do not want to play a way more balanced map.
Additional, if there are many people who would join the league, it would be also being much more fun.
Where r these ppl, you think they really give af about this league..
You can act like doing this will flood in new ppl but the truth is you noobs will be on Smurf accounts and nothing will change
That's not the point, if you want to change smth to the better, so you have to go new ways. Always do the same and expect new results, well that's rly stupid. As you said "ppl with skill can play against spot abuse" - so ppl with skill will ez can play the korean map.
Why do not give a chance? Maybe you have at the end not 20 active ppl, maybe there are 100 then?
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Again I say if u want to play on Korean map then play on the Korean map. No one is forcing anything. As of right now over 98% of scw games r on r map.
Maybe suggest putting it out there that ppl can play on that map 2 but forcing ppl to change is silly. I like options.
Like if I want to I can pick P all season long if u you don’t like it, don’t play me. It’s simple
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A really good player can fight spot abuse and plans for it
Does not take away the fact it is unbalanced. Win% is massively skewered in favor of spot abusers, including cases where the other player is better or close in skill.
Because casting korean games where Protoss players use mind control to make 400psi is considered balanced and skillful in your head.
In an SCW korea beta the same scw rules would apply. So no MC. I am also strongly against MC. In my own tournaments on Korean map I've always banned mind control.
Also, Riddick you can write outside of the "quote" box.
“I’m a noob”
I do what I want
I respect that.
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I’d love to see ads for scw placed in different places to reach starcraft community
Also I’d love to see us host a low money 1s tournament for some cash. I’d throw down on getting that going and I think that would be a way to bring people to scw. But a huge part of this is getting it out to the right ppl
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I’d love to see ads for scw placed in different places to reach starcraft community
Also I’d love to see us host a low money 1s tournament for some cash. I’d throw down on getting that going and I think that would be a way to bring people to scw. But a huge part of this is getting it out to the right ppl
Considering Zero who organizes and hosts BSL is quiting after the current BSL seasons, a big hole in low money competition will open up. It would be a pretty good time to capitalize on opening up more beta leagues(korean map and low map) to draw these people in.