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GENERAL => Suggestions & Feedback => Topic started by: sNipEr.ScopE on June 15, 2018, 07:41:45 pm
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Please I know you all are fans of brain and so am I, he is great at what he does, but consider the fact that he is a Korean Professional starcraft player and that no other tournaments outside of korea allow for professional Koreans to compete because that is their job and they do it professionally, while the rest of us are just recreational players playing in spare time. By allowing him to win the prize it will be a negative effect on the community because he will just take the money and leave us with nothing and also it would be a lot more interesting to see tyga defjam monte (if he plays) kon jose and whoever else decides to compete playing for the top prize and would be a lot more fulfilling because were all a lot more close in skill level and deserve the prize. Especially for someone like me who has poured thousands of games into this league and trained finally becoming top level just to have this brain guy come and take every chance I have to win first. along with every1 else, no one in our community has a chance against him. SO please bar him from the final tournament but allow him to play games for the league or for a minimum amount of money because him just destroying this league is no fun for anyone.
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There is a substantial prize for #2
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Yes that's true but then ill have to be competing with all the tops just for second place which is gonna be really hard. Plus now we're migrating over to Korean map? Idk about this... its kinda just too much to fast. Koreans competing in foreign tournaments is basically illegal.
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No there's no plans to change maps; not sure where you heard this.
If a professional player wants to participate in our league they are very welcome. You are basically trying to disqualify someone for being too good
If you donate money and wish to allocate it to the #2 spot specifically, I'd be glad to accept it and will honor that request (unless it exceeds the prize pool for #1, which wouldn't make sense).
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Sword youre making a bad choice, brain is gonna cause all the other pros to quit including me, no point trying with him playing.
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Sword youre making a bad choice, brain is gonna cause all the other pros to quit including me, no point trying with him playing.
i thought you, if anyone, cared above all about the experience of challenging, high-level games, rather than getting that #1 spot. what about all of the other players that have 0 chance of getting #1 regardless of whether brain plays or not, but they mass games anyway? adversity doesn't stop them, and theyre the bulk of what makes up the league. if we can't handle competition, maybe youre right, theres no point in running a league
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I'm sure sNipEr.ScopE is a fine person, but there is zero honor or integrity in weeding out superior competition with regulations. If you need $500 so bad, get a job. If you have one, then congrats, SC is a hobby and it won't matter when you don't win.
Sincerely to anyone who fits this condition, if you're playing only because there is a chance to win money, please do literally any other thing with your time. It'll be way more productive for you and your future self won't resent you so much for it.
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Well ive already put a lot of time and effort into this game and league and i just think that we should follow the example of other foreign leagues and not allow pro players from korea to win money in a foreign tournament, its a common theme seen all over the low money scene. It's the only way semi-pro players can make any money at all besides streaming, which im not really the streaming type.
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Might as well just get a better scoring algorithm that puts players like Buu and others who can't beat Brain consistently at the B level they are. If you folks want to then argue about whether or not #1 B Rank gets any money, do it.
What I'm hearing is "I've gotten most of the way there, so subsidize me getting the rest of the way there because I can't earn it on my own."
Not saying I can, I'm just reiterating a logically equivalent sentiment.
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Please I know you all are fans of brain and so am I, he is great at what he does, but consider the fact that he is a Korean Professional starcraft player and that no other tournaments outside of korea allow for professional Koreans to compete because that is their job and they do it professionally, while the rest of us are just recreational players playing in spare time. By allowing him to win the prize it will be a negative effect on the community because he will just take the money and leave us with nothing and also it would be a lot more interesting to see tyga defjam monte (if he plays) kon jose and whoever else decides to compete playing for the top prize and would be a lot more fulfilling because were all a lot more close in skill level and deserve the prize. Especially for someone like me who has poured thousands of games into this league and trained finally becoming top level just to have this brain guy come and take every chance I have to win first. along with every1 else, no one in our community has a chance against him. SO please bar him from the final tournament but allow him to play games for the league or for a minimum amount of money because him just destroying this league is no fun for anyone.
How can you call yourself top level in one breath but complain that he is unbeatable in the next?
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- Brain got his semi-professional license but was never picked up by a team to become a professional.
- Since switching to Terran he's definitely been on the level of a professional but he's by definition not a professional.
- He doesn't play StarCraft for a living, He doesn't try to qualify for ASL and he even stopped playing low.
- He does make some money from streaming but that doesn't constitute "being a professional". It just makes him a streamer.
- He may be the top Korean Fastest player but he's still not a professional.
- Should we punish him for being "too good"? No.
- Instead use his play as an example for your own, break down the walls. There is so much wrong with your post.
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Why can't you understand it is just not fair for a player like him to compete our league it's like if I went to league with just a cpu to play against and got paid 1000$ it's the same thing just ban brain and scw wins :)
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W/e your the donater Jace hope it turns out good. I will try to beat brain if I can I have improved a bit so maybe I win sometimes glhf.
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I'm going to post my honest opinion here. I agree with some of you that banishing a player from fastest league is a bad idea. Especially this brain player, why? Because I hear that this pro brain player has lots of followers to his stream so that gives us potential to bring new faces to the fastest community. This is absolutely the most absurd idea I ever seen, banish a player because he is too good or pro.
To the guy that made this topic no offense but, the way you say things about how you train so hard to be a top level is pretty lame. I'm sure there are players on fastest that has played hundreds of games and tried very hard like yourself but don't really focused on the prize money but rather having fun Instead. $770 is not a lot of money and you can earn that Ina week or two. Fastest should be played on a casual level, not competitively to the point where you get addicted. So to the player who wants a certain player to get banned, that's a wrong idea.
Speaking of massing games, I'm about to do it myself but not for the money, it's to challenge myself and see where my limit is and also have fu. oh btw I want to face this brain guy, get owned and improve from it :)
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I'm sure sNipEr.ScopE is a fine person, but there is zero honor or integrity in weeding out superior competition with regulations. If you need $500 so bad, get a job. If you have one, then congrats, SC is a hobby and it won't matter when you don't win.
Sincerely to anyone who fits this condition, if you're playing only because there is a chance to win money, please do literally any other thing with your time. It'll be way more productive for you and your future self won't resent you so much for it.
I'd have too 100% agree on this :). And only players that should be banned from leaguebare hackers and cheaters only.
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Why can't you understand it is just not fair for a player like him to compete our league it's like if I went to league with just a cpu to play against and got paid 1000$ it's the same thing just ban brain and scw wins :)
Hey, it's not fair for you guys such as Jose,spirit, and sail to compete top 5 tournament and win $$$. What bout us players that rank way below you? We tried hard too you know. It's like saying I enter a tournament compete in against bunch of A's in a low money as I'm only one who is D. Anyone get what I mean? Ban all top A players, scw wins?!
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yea but were not PROGAMERS FROM KOREA JEEZ you are so thick headed. Progamers from korea have AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE in regards to this game superior training environment and ability to understand streams what they are doing and what they did wrong so much easier to get good than people outside of korea pro gaming scene, hence why Koreans are not allowed in many foreign tournaments, I know its a hard thing for you guys to grasp but its true and im right.
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but really I don't care that much so you guys can stop giving me shit over it. Im still gonna play the season, at least theres prize for second you got that right. Just want to see how the league would do without brain. hence I think some of the old players wont participate because of him. But anyway, it's fine you can let it go close thread and be done with it.
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I haven't even read this thread, but the fact you are saying brain should not qualify for the prize money is rediculous. who else is it going to go to, this toxic moron Shitlord]Lk[ ?
if he wins then he deserves it, the same as anyone else who would win, even shitlord. if they win, they deserve it.
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yea but were not PROGAMERS FROM KOREA JEEZ you are so thick headed. Progamers from korea have AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE in regards to this game superior training environment and ability to understand streams what they are doing and what they did wrong so much easier to get good than people outside of korea pro gaming scene, hence why Koreans are not allowed in many foreign tournaments, I know its a hard thing for you guys to grasp but its true and im right.
You are forgetting about the fact that this tournament was 'FUNDED by the community'. NOT sponsored or organized by some company or organization where they have regulations etc.. therefore brain is 100 percent allowed to join...
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yea but were not PROGAMERS FROM KOREA JEEZ you are so thick headed. Progamers from korea have AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE in regards to this game superior training environment and ability to understand streams what they are doing and what they did wrong so much easier to get good than people outside of korea pro gaming scene, hence why Koreans are not allowed in many foreign tournaments, I know its a hard thing for you guys to grasp but its true and im right.
You are forgetting about the fact that this tournament was 'FUNDED by the community'. NOT sponsored or organized by some company or organization where they have regulations etc.. therefore brain is 100 percent allowed to join...
I didn't say it was funded by a company, I said that we should follow their example and not let him steal the money.
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Also I wont be playing very much this season got a lot of stuff to do so hf with league all. gl vs brain :)
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Lol..... 'steal money'.
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
white water rafting. seeing the eiffel tower light up at night. visiting berlins crazy night life. backpacking through the netherlands. drinking at all of Dublins famous pubs. Crossing the crosswalk on Abbey road in London UK. Learning Spanish, boating through italy, mountain climbing the rockies in Canada.
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LOL really gus? I cant believe u made this thread
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Also I wont be playing very much this season got a lot of stuff to do so hf with league all. gl vs brain :)
Only 250 games this season? 😉
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Also I wont be playing very much this season got a lot of stuff to do so hf with league all. gl vs brain :)
Yesterday you told me you had to be away for only 3 days and would then be able to play the full season? What has changed?
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
white water rafting. seeing the eiffel tower light up at night. visiting berlins crazy night life. backpacking through the netherlands. drinking at all of Dublins famous pubs. Crossing the crosswalk on Abbey road in London UK. Learning Spanish, boating through italy, mountain climbing the rockies in Canada.
idk like my job and college? Moron
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1 2 3 4 we don't want brain anymore c'mon everyone!
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
white water rafting. seeing the eiffel tower light up at night. visiting berlins crazy night life. backpacking through the netherlands. drinking at all of Dublins famous pubs. Crossing the crosswalk on Abbey road in London UK. Learning Spanish, boating through italy, mountain climbing the rockies in Canada.
idk like my job and college? Moron
You’ve been in college for like 6 year now lmao
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Why is everyone making such such a big deal? I already said I don't care and will play the season but just not that much holy shit y'all dramatic
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Why is everyone making such such a big deal? I already said I don't care and will play the season but just not that much holy shit y'all dramatic
We’re dramatic, but you made a long ranting post about banning somebody for being too good? We should’ve expected this from a Fire. Member.
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Why is everyone making such such a big deal? I already said I don't care and will play the season but just not that much holy shit y'all dramatic
We’re dramatic, but you made a long ranting post about banning somebody for being too good? We should’ve expected this from a Fire. Member.
you've never played brain mark noob shut up 2v2 boy
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Why is everyone making such such a big deal? I already said I don't care and will play the season but just not that much holy shit y'all dramatic
We’re dramatic, but you made a long ranting post about banning somebody for being too good? We should’ve expected this from a Fire. Member.
you've never played brain mark noob shut up 2v2 boy
Cry more
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Why is everyone making such such a big deal? I already said I don't care and will play the season but just not that much holy shit y'all dramatic
We’re dramatic, but you made a long ranting post about banning somebody for being too good? We should’ve expected this from a Fire. Member.
you've never played brain mark noob shut up 2v2 boy
Cry more
sword end discussion please. Im tired of these rude ignorant comments I even said idc let him play now they're just keeping it going.
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No one is making a big deal I believe. This is a forum where one makes a post which leads to an open discussion towards the subject. you made a topic and people are going to make a response about it whether it's negative or positive. Speaking of the prize money, should be spread among top 5, not just top 3or 2...
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Brain is a pro player but guys…. defjam rapped him. Should u ban defjam too? :-\
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Yes ban whoever beat brain because they are too good too. Scw wins!
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If I'm following correctly, the issue isn't "this user is too good, please ban him"
The issue is: should SCW allow non-foreign players to compete in the league?
That is perfectly reasonable and debatable topic.
There are several SC leagues and tournaments where they don't allow Korean players to compete, such as Foreign Brood War Cup (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Foreign_Brood_War_Cup_1).
More on the foreign scene. (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Portal:Foreign_Scene)
Just wanted to clear that up.
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Brain is a pro player but guys…. defjam rapped him. Should u ban defjam too? :-\
Defjam didn't "rape" him brain doesn't play original. I would like to see defjam beat him on bw.
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If I'm following correctly, the issue isn't "this user is too good, please ban him"
The issue is: should SCW allow non-foreign players to compete in the league?
That is perfectly reasonable and debatable topic.
There are several SC leagues and tournaments where they don't allow Korean players to compete, such as Foreign Brood War Cup (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Foreign_Brood_War_Cup_1).
More on the foreign scene. (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Portal:Foreign_Scene)
Just wanted to clear that up.
THANK YOU!
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If I'm following correctly, the issue isn't "this user is too good, please ban him"
The issue is: should SCW allow non-foreign players to compete in the league?
That is perfectly reasonable and debatable topic.
There are several SC leagues and tournaments where they don't allow Korean players to compete, such as Foreign Brood War Cup (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Foreign_Brood_War_Cup_1).
More on the foreign scene. (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Portal:Foreign_Scene)
Just wanted to clear that up.
Nice try, Buu's burner account
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
white water rafting. seeing the eiffel tower light up at night. visiting berlins crazy night life. backpacking through the netherlands. drinking at all of Dublins famous pubs. Crossing the crosswalk on Abbey road in London UK. Learning Spanish, boating through italy, mountain climbing the rockies in Canada.
idk like my job and college? Moron
. Your job is playing full time StarCraft and training hard to win every season. You attend starcraftworld college of California :) :) :)
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
white water rafting. seeing the eiffel tower light up at night. visiting berlins crazy night life. backpacking through the netherlands. drinking at all of Dublins famous pubs. Crossing the crosswalk on Abbey road in London UK. Learning Spanish, boating through italy, mountain climbing the rockies in Canada.
idk like my job and college? Moron
. Your job is playing full time StarCraft and training hard to win every season. You attend starcraftworld college of California :) :) :)
im a full time ebay powerseller, got a job at a sign manufacturing plant. and Im taking sign language interperetation. Fuck off.
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If I'm following correctly, the issue isn't "this user is too good, please ban him"
The issue is: should SCW allow non-foreign players to compete in the league?
That is perfectly reasonable and debatable topic.
There are several SC leagues and tournaments where they don't allow Korean players to compete, such as Foreign Brood War Cup (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Foreign_Brood_War_Cup_1).
More on the foreign scene. (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Portal:Foreign_Scene)
Just wanted to clear that up.
Nice try, Buu's burner account
Mamba the FBI agent lmao
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What kinda stuff you got going on Scope? Anything exciting?
white water rafting. seeing the eiffel tower light up at night. visiting berlins crazy night life. backpacking through the netherlands. drinking at all of Dublins famous pubs. Crossing the crosswalk on Abbey road in London UK. Learning Spanish, boating through italy, mountain climbing the rockies in Canada.
idk like my job and college? Moron
. Your job is playing full time StarCraft and training hard to win every season. You attend starcraftworld college of California :) :) :)
im a full time ebay powerseller, got a job at a sign manufacturing plant. and Im taking sign language interperetation. Fuck off.
Lol I'm only kidding with you, cool down :) :)
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If I'm following correctly, the issue isn't "this user is too good, please ban him"
The issue is: should SCW allow non-foreign players to compete in the league?
That is perfectly reasonable and debatable topic.
There are several SC leagues and tournaments where they don't allow Korean players to compete, such as Foreign Brood War Cup (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Foreign_Brood_War_Cup_1).
More on the foreign scene. (https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Portal:Foreign_Scene)
Just wanted to clear that up.
Nice try, Buu's burner account
Mamba the FBI agent lmao
Just gotta throw out wild accusations until one sticks. Straight from Investigating 101
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im a full time ebay powerseller, got a job at a sign manufacturing plant. and Im taking sign language interperetation. Fuck off.
Learning sign language because your poorly constructed arguments are falling on deaf ears? ;D
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Lol fire buu wat the fuck... you just want to kick all pro players but this season there was no good players active and still jose raped u lol so just chill and stop cryin just an effin game fuck sakes
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Lol fire buu wat the fuck... you just want to kick all pro players but this season there was no good players active and still jose raped u lol so just chill and stop cryin just an effin game fuck sakes
You are an idiot if you think Jose isn't good
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Closing this silly thread. We will not ban people for being too good