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Title: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 12:57:08 pm
to give you guys some background information, gold and j.h are very close friends.
last week goldscv was starting to fall far behind in points to the three guys ahead of him (fourdrones,j.h and hello)
Gold played a series vs j.h and j.h resulted in beating him 9-0.. this seems strange cuz gold is a top level player and has beat j.h many times before. after watching the replays of the series you can clearly tell gold is throwing games on purpose with games he doesnt micro in with apms low as 150 (he usually plays 250+apm)
also some of the builds he does obvious to, two racking middle of map tvz where jh is corner and goes ling rush. It hard to explain but if anyone has watched the reps you can clearly see he is throwing the games.
also, if you clicked golds history in his profile it shows gold winning some games but never reported these.. thus proving there intent even more.

Then, last night gold lost to j.h again 4-0. again throwing games on purpose. telling him his race in the zvt games so jh can get a fast bunker rush off only scouting chokes. the tvp game were gold pulls off all his scvs to attack jh for no reason but to throw the game. The TVT game were gold scans and see drops coming to his main doesnt pump any units or brings units to protect his main.. then not dodging his scvs.. its a joke.  Also look at his profile history again, Gold won a game and DID NOT REPORT again???   Fucking BS if you ask me.

Also When i(fourdrones) played j.h yesterday he had to have goldscv obs the game. and when i said i would ban him or tell gold to leave in the game cuz it was lagging. J.H. replied NO Gold stays. I cant prove he cheated vs the games against me but the way j.h and gold were acting and desperate to have gold obs these games makes me believe they were cheating here to.

These games should be removed.. its clearly cheating and abusing the league just for a bit of money. its ridiculous.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: TealSilverSteal on January 13, 2019, 01:03:10 pm
If this is true, then thats fucking pathetic. Needle-dicks-koreans need to be punished.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: tonyG on January 13, 2019, 01:06:00 pm
CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 01:07:00 pm
it is true and its hard for me to explain what i mean by typing, i will gladly show anyone the evidence on sc if you havent already seen the reps for yourselves
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Medic on January 13, 2019, 01:17:59 pm
scummy ass koreans
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 01:31:59 pm
Cole shut your pussy ass up, didn’t you do this a few seasons back to help smurf win 2s?
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Arakul on January 13, 2019, 01:34:20 pm
yah i noticed something was wrong there.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 01:37:46 pm
Cole shut your pussy ass up, didn’t you do this a few seasons back to help smurf win 2s?
cuz I partned smurf to go 4-0 on last day? lol explain ur logic on this one
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 01:41:40 pm
Cole shut your pussy ass up, didn’t you do this a few seasons back to help smurf win 2s?
cuz I partned smurf to go 4-0 on last day? lol explain ur logic on this one

Actually you part Diablo and lost to smurf/shampoo on purpose. The last game for smurf to pass me you went stack in 2s lmao. Then right after he passed me you got on here and sent me a pm laughing at me cause smurf passed me. Don’t be upset if it comes back to bite you in the ass.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 01:42:59 pm
re watch the rep, I almost killed the toss, and if diablo canned bottom righit, its gg and we win. but diablo got outmassed.

you jump to conclusion to easily. re watch rep plz before you talk nonsense
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 01:43:37 pm
re watch the rep, I almost killed the toss, and if diablo canned bottom righit, its gg and we win. but diablo got outmassed.

you jump to conclusion to easily. re watch rep plz before you talk nonsense

Like I said don’t be upset when you did the same shit in the past.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 01:50:47 pm
your lying, like I said rewatch the rep before you make false accusations.

giving a friend 13-0 free wins. and not reporting the games they won vs them is a little excessive just for a bit of money..
even you should agree on this one.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 01:53:33 pm
your lying, like I said rewatch the rep before you make false accusations.

giving a friend 13-0 free wins. and not reporting the games they won vs them is a little excessive just for a bit of money..
even you should agree on this one.

Nope, fuck you. I’ll probably receive a Pm from you now but oh well. Try to act all cool on here.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 02:00:23 pm
Didn’t you play gus a few seasons back where it was bo9 you had to win them all or couldn’t report your games?
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:02:45 pm
not once
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: GooN-of-SoV on January 13, 2019, 02:03:51 pm
Lmao Mark, You must be having a shitty vacation if your on here 24/7. Go drink a beer or do a line of coke or something Enjoy your vacation. Lol Nerd
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 02:05:18 pm
Lmao Mark, You must be having a shitty vacation if your on here 24/7. Go drink a beer or do a line of coke or something Enjoy your vacation. Lol Nerd

Shut your garbage ass up.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Medic on January 13, 2019, 02:14:32 pm
Didn’t you play gus a few seasons back where it was bo9 you had to win them all or couldn’t report your games?


hmm mark.. people have been doing this since vgt and i'm not sure how its considered abuse? specially if both parties agree to it.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 02:15:15 pm
Didn’t you play gus a few seasons back where it was bo9 you had to win them all or couldn’t report your games?


hmm mark.. people have been doing this since vgt and i'm not sure how its considered abuse? specially if both parties agree to it.

How do we know they didn’t do this?
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:16:40 pm
mark honestly, just watch the replays. your talking without seeing what actually happened.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: BeatZ- on January 13, 2019, 02:22:11 pm
mark honestly, just watch the replays. your talking without seeing what actually happened.

You’re trying to play all innocent now, but you cheated by playing for kon in tourney, and gave smurf the win in 2s.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: FaINeR on January 13, 2019, 02:22:21 pm
Fourdrones should get angry playing vs J.H. and try to prevent them from playing among themselves. Why against mandingo  you play bo30 and vs J.H little games.

Score
fourdrones: 5 vs J.H: 4
fourdrones: 14 vs Goldscv: 10
fourdrones: 17 vs Hello: 11

Games including with all your accounts.
Good job vs the Koreans but now it's time to win vs. J.H. with more difference. Good luck
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Arakul on January 13, 2019, 02:23:53 pm
i guess to make this clean you guys should go bo9 and the winner takes it all.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:24:26 pm
mark honestly, just watch the replays. your talking without seeing what actually happened.

You’re trying to play all innocent now, but you cheated by playing for kon in tourney, and gave smurf the win in 2s.
that tournament was a joke, everyone not playing there games, people getting subbed in and out. I played for kon ya, kon got dq'd from the tournament and I was banned for a season.
this is different issue now.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:26:24 pm
i guess to make this clean you guys should go bo9 and the winner takes it all.
so 13 gifted wins, not reporting his losses, and the korean text from the game translated telling how to play mid game. and you think sword should reward this guy with his own money?

youd think they would use skype or talk on /f l
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: GooN-of-SoV on January 13, 2019, 02:33:15 pm
You're all bunch of cheaters! Rigged League lol
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Arakul on January 13, 2019, 02:34:25 pm
i guess to make this clean you guys should go bo9 and the winner takes it all.
so 13 gifted wins, not reporting his losses, and the korean text from the game translated telling how to play mid game. and you think sword should reward this guy with his own money?

youd think they would use skype or talk on /f l
hard to believe that sword can find a way to take those 13 wins off. since he wants korean scw to grow up. it fuckes his reputation if he gonna ban the koreans. thats why finall 4 is always good idea for kind of this league.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:35:35 pm
Koreans fucked there own reputation, not swords.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Arakul on January 13, 2019, 02:37:53 pm
Koreans fucked there own reputation, not swords.
if this was a big tourney with serious admins then they would of ban the koreans asap. but im not sure about sword. if he got the balls he should ban them.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: FaINeR on January 13, 2019, 02:38:48 pm
Play the first to win at 6 games. Not Dodge

All the seasons Everyone does the same thing ,the first place tries to take care of their position without playing, and the second try to reach it with any method.  Both should PLAY....
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:43:53 pm
fainer you shouldn't speak of dodge, u have been the biggest pussy on this game since day1 . never talk about ur own game only talk of others.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 02:45:16 pm
you speak as if I haven't played a single game vs top 5. I played all
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: tonyG on January 13, 2019, 02:47:40 pm
YOU GUYS ARE TIED, BO9 BETWEEN YOU TWO, WINNER IS WINNER OF SCW9??
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: FaINeR on January 13, 2019, 04:23:50 pm
you speak as if I haven't played a single game vs top 5. I played all

If everything is perfect, you just need to finish J.H. winning more games because obviously he will tried to play vs others to reach the 1st place,  is your fault

Im not bad manner
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on January 13, 2019, 05:31:04 pm
I think it’s obvious the Koreans are bad manner and cheating punishment please sword
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: DryFly on January 13, 2019, 06:19:59 pm
you speak as if I haven't played a single game vs top 5. I played all

If everything is perfect, you just need to finish J.H. winning more games because obviously he will tried to play vs others to reach the 1st place,  is your fault

Im not bad manner

how? he wouldnt even be close to first place if it was for goldscv giving him over 600 points
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: johnwick on January 13, 2019, 06:42:07 pm
Why don’t you just play a few more games to reach #1. That seems to be the real problem here. Not sure if you have enough proof to make that claim
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on January 13, 2019, 07:26:28 pm
just to clear what I said about the Koreans, I did not mean all Koreans just the Koreans in question, j.h and goldscv.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: PuMa on January 13, 2019, 10:14:59 pm
That sucks if it's true. Shitty representation. Can you guys link the replays or upload them to this thread? Not going to lie, i also had that odd feeling of suspicion while watching tony's stream. Just something about the way he would demand his friend to obs the games seemed fishy. Hope i'm wrong.

You guys should just BO whatever you agree on. Winner takes all.


Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: LivE.SworD on January 14, 2019, 12:00:32 am
I have reviewed all of the provided evidence, found additional evidence, and concluded that GoldSCV was certainly allowing J.H to win games against him. I have split the evidence three-way:

1) Gameplay by GoldSCV
Just watch the replays; this is better seen on ones own. Take a look at the blatantly ineffective build in this game:
https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=1&season=42&gid=1496

See in here, how even after GoldSCV has the upper hand, having chased away a zealot rush, he stacks all SCVs and does not micro his marines, and throws the game:
https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=1&season=42&gid=1984

There are many other examples of this, but these are the two clearest ones. Watch the replays yourself if you wish.

2) GoldSCV does not report the win(s) he did get vs J.H
(http://www.starcraftworld.net/misc/gamehistory.png)

This shows a result of an Battle.net API request corresponding to a player's game history (similar to what you can view on a user's profile on Battle.net, in raw form). This contains a ZvP game that GoldSCV won against J.H on SCW9 map, which was not reported.

3) The dialog inside the game is pretty revealing. There is one game in particular:
https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=gamedetails&l=1&season=42&gid=1494
Quote
GoldSCV: 4등이네
J.H: .
J.H: ㅋㅋ
J.H: 토스
GoldSCV: 토스
J.H: 프프
J.H: 룰
J.H: 하냐?
GoldSCV: ㅇ
GoldSCV: 4000점
GoldSCV: 될려면 얼마나해야하나
J.H: ㅋㅋ
J.H: 너를 10판 잡으면 된다 나는
GoldSCV: 10판?
J.H: 어
J.H: ㅋㅋ
J.H: 60점씩
J.H: 오른던데?
GoldSCV: 나 몇프로때줄꺼야
J.H: 10
GoldSCV: ?
GoldSCV: 점수안줌
J.H: ㄷ
GoldSCV: ㅅㅂ 져주다보니깢
GoldSCV: 진자해도
GoldSCV: 지네
GoldSCV: ㅈㅈ

The first part contains both players revealing their race, followed by a discussion of how many games J.H needs to get to 4000 points, followed by bargaining of how to split the prize money.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: insaNe on January 14, 2019, 12:09:38 am
Wow, how embarrassing for J.H and GoldSCV.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: GooN-of-SoV on January 14, 2019, 05:38:56 am
Damn, so many cheaters first Cole and Kon , Now J.H and Goldscv.  tisk tisk.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: GooN-of-SoV on January 14, 2019, 06:04:56 am
Ban both of them next season.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: TealSilverSteal on January 14, 2019, 07:18:55 am
What a disgrace, if this was in korean they would never have done that. But against us, they can do it.... we all should let brain, put this to his stream so they will lose their followers and make them suffer. Fucking cunts
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: Pudzianowski on January 14, 2019, 07:20:03 am
Lol cole relax man who cares? U.are.so.geek and.crybaby even.more than.shitlord such a bitch
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: tonyG on January 14, 2019, 10:59:42 am
good job SCW investigation team. SHAME ON YOU J.H AND GOLDSCV!!!!!! YOU bring SHAME to your FAMILY!. (i heard this is the biggest BM in korea) 
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: TealSilverSteal on January 14, 2019, 11:05:45 am
You have disgrace the Protoss-gods by far. Fucking needle-dicks-chink-eyes.
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: johnwick on January 14, 2019, 03:03:07 pm
I thought JH aka uplus was a good mannered player. I’m disappointed
Title: Re: J.H and GoldSCV Cheating
Post by: PuMa on January 14, 2019, 04:06:01 pm
Nice catch!