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Title: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 01:23:44 am
Something pretty nerdy...

So there’s a lot of talk about the map being unfair... Well would this be possible?

If we set up a league where everyone pre-season is ranked. And we are put in to sort of divisions or tiers...

So like from tier one would be the top 10 players
Tier 2 top 20 and then tier 3 top 30 and beyond..

With that being said when a tier one player plays a tier two player he will earn less points and lose more points than if he played a player in his own division/tier . I Believe this will help with dodging AND bashing. Because we can set up the point system (which changes drastically) like this :

Tier 1 vs Tier 1 would be +75 -75
Tier 1 vs Tier 2 would be +50 -75
Tier 1 vs Tier 3 would be +25 -75

So this is where it helps with dodging... a player who would normally dodge a top player is more willing to play that player knowing that all he has to do is win 1 game to make up for 3 losses.. and this also makes it so that no one can really bash because if you’re playing players at a lower tier , you’re taking a bigger risk.

And also top players would have to win a LOT more games than you lose which would make it so that “bashing” isn’t really significant.

So for example.. let’s say Player A always dodges Player B

If Player A knows that all he has to win is 1 game out of every 4 to break even with player B then he might be more willing to play.. and with fastest we all know that all it takes is a Mid Zerg for a lower tier player to beat a higher tier player so it’s very likely that lower ranked players would be willing to player better players because they can continue practicing with a low risk to their league points.

Also with Divisions/Tiers it’s easier for players to play players of their own skill rank..

I think this will also help with activity because If we categorize players then it will make players wants to get better and try getting in to Tier one be respected as a good player.

Idk this is just something to talk about and maybe some of you have better ideas or can polish this one up.. something new would be pretty cool.. and we can always go back to the current model.

Also the tiers.. and a lot of things I mentioned are a lot more complex and we need to set up rules and stuff .. but this is just a start to get the discussion going

So my idea of how this will work is that we will have two different ranks one is our tier

Tier 1, Tier 2, etc and the other is our rank in the season

So like if I’m 3rd in the league it will show up in the standings as 3rd with my Points  but it would also show that I’m a tier one player or something like that.. idk.. what do you guys think ? Too nerdy ? :)
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 01:38:28 am
Heres what SCW should do
1.Ban sithlord
2.Make the league SC ORIGNAL again

plus momo would feel left out not qualifying in any tier.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 01:42:28 am
the more you research the more you realize how lonely your life is
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 01:45:56 am
Lmao good one about momo lolol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 01:50:50 am
i have no problem playing you, rvr like every1 else does on this game since day 1. You get p you get p so what, but sc fastest has always been rvr, Why do you think ur special? your just not at the level as the players who can play tvp or zvt. everyone knows this
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 02:26:30 am
the point system is already in place where higher ranks have to "4-1" much lower ranked players in order to go up points
people are always coming and going so its too much to keep track of ranked players. just seems to complicated and more work for sword.
i think people are realizing the game is declining in activity and that dodging seems to be less than it use to be in previous years. massing games against certain players does increase activity though, it just seems that gus has taken the role as the booster to higher level players.

the only thing i thought could be changed was that if mid T/Z vs P , mid Z vs T wins they get some bonus points, and P winning fewer points if they won. 
Or have any t/z vs p and z vs t games ragardless of corner or mid to have more points won and less points won for the p.
Since it shows its the stats how these are everyones worst m/us and P being everyones best race

I really dont care for any change though, i like it how it is as long as it goes back to OG SC
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 02:29:30 am
is the level ur referring to where ur a 50-50 record player playing rvr like everyone else does. or the level i get better records than you playing rvr vs better players.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 08:38:28 am
Lmao Cole is already doing better then you.. You have mass games vs sword, Smurf and Buu. You only pick protoss . At least Cole picks random and plays other people not the same guys. Lol You're nothing kid. The day Scw makes 1s rvr is the day it would be more active .  New comers and players stop playing because when they see a guy only pock toss and bash on the same guys it's just a waste of time joining this league.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 10:19:51 am
Cole just raped you 6-0 go away now, Nobody likes you.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 11:05:16 am
Lmao 9-0 and he plays all races you only know how to play protoss. Good bye low life.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Grrrr... on November 27, 2017, 11:32:00 am
i just watched like 6 replays of those games..... L O L
i mean he got skills ( like hard skills ) but if u play smart,... u rape him in a RVR but his pvp is kinda sick, u have to go 4-5 gates and canon him.... if not, his reaver micro is insane....
i will love to play him
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Wankenstein on November 27, 2017, 11:38:23 am
Who is that guy? Fia? He came out of nowhere it seems lol.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Grrrr... on November 27, 2017, 11:41:36 am
just a korean with mad skills, kinda remind me of stalife but way better
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 11:42:37 am
12-0 it's about time some1 shut Turbo up. Lol  I got Lots of respect for "Brain" . Well done sir,  You made this league more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Wankenstein on November 27, 2017, 11:43:05 am
How do they find this place? Not used to seeing koreans playing fastest but that's cool
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: YaKSuKyA.- on November 27, 2017, 01:33:55 pm
14-0 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 01:52:38 pm
Yeah I’m pretty sure he woulda 14-0’d anyone who played him 14 times.. except for me of course.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: beaTz- on November 27, 2017, 01:59:09 pm
12-0 it's about time some1 shut Turbo up. Lol  I got Lots of respect for "Brain" . Well done sir,  You made this league more enjoyable.
More enjoyable? It he 12-0 Matt’s p who’s gonna be able to keep up with him? Maybe 1-2 people lol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 02:00:05 pm
Just like I was the only one to take on rabbit il be the only one to beat this 14yr old Korean
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 02:00:49 pm
Matt struggles to micro macro as p; it's not his style , that's why he got raped
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 02:10:22 pm
Hey Matt, How does it feel to get owned by a pub 14 times ? Lol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 02:15:31 pm
He should of asked for a p vs mid t or p vs mid z
Since he needs every advantage possible like every season
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 02:23:17 pm
Lmao yeah for real.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: koN on November 27, 2017, 02:34:20 pm
This is a response to Tyga's original thread.

I like your idea, but here is my argument against it. Having different tiers and different structured point system would be great if we had a league of like 400+ players. Unfortunately we don't and I think putting that point system into place and having different tiers of players will only cause more dodging and less games. Sword has put this point system in place to encourage activity, which is what this community needs. Having someone placed in tier one, trying to play a tier three, I can just see that tier 3 player saying "play someone in your own tier, stop trying to noob bash". Or will be the other way around too where a tier three player is asking to play a tier one and a tier one will say "no you're too low and it's not worth the risk of losing points". I just don't think separating the levels of players is a great idea with how the league is currently played. As we all have a good idea who is considered top players, mid level players and noobs, I don't think visually separating it is a good idea. As everyone is way too sensitive these days. I think this would've been a great idea back in VGT and SCD days. I just don't think it makes much sense for the community we have today. Realistically there's maybe 6-8 players who should really be in tier one and then a ton of players in the mid level and then handful of players in the lower level.

I think some ideas for next season would be to bring the league back to original SC, as no one is a fan of broodwar. I know we wanted to try and attract new players by staying on BW with re-mastered, but it hasn't worked. We don't have a lot of players playing, in fact i'd argue that we have less than we did before re-mastered. Which is a horrible sign. Original SC has always been the number one league even going back to VGT days. SC > BW in games played and all the top players played original over BW. The people that played BW were generally the ones that couldn't place high in Original so they played BW. That went for both the 1v1 league and 2v2 league for VGT.

Another idea, as much as I hate it, is rewarding bonuses for games played and wins. As this isn't always fair to the people that don't have all the time in the world to play SC, but it does help with activity as people will want to achieve those bonus points. I am really against this as it encourages noob bashing and as I said really benefits the super active players, but after all activity is what we need at this point.

I also think hosting weekly tournaments is a great idea. The 2s tournament this Saturday brought a lot of activity to the channel and was fun. Congrats goes out to BaO for doing the tournament and looking to host a 1v1 tourney up coming as well. The tournaments don't have to be for money all the time. They can be for league points. Host a 1v1 tourney and the person that wins that tourney gets 300 league points, 2nd place gets 200 points and third place gets 100 points.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: adi on November 27, 2017, 02:48:34 pm
Tournament for league points seems like a great idea, we can increase the frequency of tourneys without shelling out $$.
Was there a reason the 2v2 tourney was Bo3 for all games except the finals? Either making it Bo5 for all or having double elimination would decrease the likelihood of bad M/U or spots happening twice in a row.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 03:13:54 pm
Go back to picking p vs Gus and sword . Ul feel better about ur skill level again
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 03:16:07 pm
Lol cole you never really beat rabbit.. I was the only one to play him like 50x a season and keep up with him . You’d play him like 4x a season get the matchup go up 3-1 and then not play him again. Not bming but just saying

Thank you koN for staying on topic.. and yes I agree this is flawed but I feel like the “noobs” would be more willing to play the “top players” in this system .. which will help with activity IMO.

Yes tournaments are huge, the tournament hosted by BaO is what made me even think of making this thread..

Maybe tournaments can have like Gold, Silver, and Bronze trophies for the top 3 players of that tournament and they get trophies and they can turn in the trophies for points or resets or something... idk there’s a lot of nerdy things we can change that can make this league fun and make people wanna play... we’ve been at the same format for like  5+ years it would be cool to make some changes
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 03:28:51 pm
Don't even try to compare our skill levels tyga.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Grrrr... on November 27, 2017, 03:30:35 pm
stop with the bming ffs.
more tourneys! its fun
for the topic, i prefer the version of view of kon. zeuz have good points but
if u separe noobs from pro, its sucks, less activity
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Puppy on November 27, 2017, 03:36:20 pm
Xtre-Bao for tourney admin!!! Give him the power to distribute points for tournament wins!!
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: beaTz- on November 27, 2017, 03:38:35 pm
I say just host a good 1vs1 tourney, invite all the best players to play
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 03:38:57 pm
Agreed .. cole you don’t even play matt... you don’t really play anyone now that I think about it lol

Grrr I feel like we’re already separated so why not pre rank the obvious? And this will make players want to move in to higher tiers. And also make the top 10 play each other more. And it will make it harder to win seasons for ANY player. I feel like In this system “noobs” would get better and place higher in the standings if the points are adjusted accordingly.

In my opinion I should earn less points for beating momo and he should earn more points for beating me plain and simple. Therefore he would be more willing to play me and that increases activity; whilst also stopping pub bashing.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: GanGstEr]SecreT on November 27, 2017, 03:43:22 pm
I like the idea of ​​kon with respect to the weekly tournaments, increase the activity, reasonably and more than the bonus points, within this same page you must create a hall of fame session for all the winners, I think public recognition It's more rewarding, especially with the rivalry between the best players.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 03:48:39 pm
I agree secret

And to add on to what puppy said.. I think we need a few more admins to be active and help out sword(I’m down to be an admin but since I play I rather not be an admin). There’s a lot of people who don’t play league but like obsing or watching replays.. I feel like they would be the perfect admins.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: TealSilverSteal on November 27, 2017, 03:54:09 pm
Matt.... whast going on? ur getting raped left n right - _ -
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: koN on November 27, 2017, 03:56:39 pm
I've helped out in the past and don't mind doing it again. I just hate the bm that comes with being an admin and a player as Tyga noted. SworD is currently running the show all by himself, and he's doing a great job. With some help from a few people things could maybe go further.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: TealSilverSteal on November 27, 2017, 03:57:26 pm
Kon, what bm do you talk about?
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Puppy on November 27, 2017, 05:25:27 pm
i'll be an admin
0-14 vs some random korean. GG no Re.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 05:26:21 pm
The league would die if you were admin, Ppvpp. Oh by the way  what were u saying about Evil beating Cole? You're 1-1 with  Evil. Lol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 06:12:18 pm
3-3 but he did beat u under  5 minz. Lol also Cole raped you 14-0 hahahhaahahaha
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: TealSilverSteal on November 27, 2017, 06:18:19 pm
Was that Cole? LMFAO hahaha...... MAtt, how stupid do you feel now
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 07:15:42 pm
5-3 Rvr.. See  you got no skills.. You're not even above average in 1s when u pick random..  Time to go to bed PpVpp u been on sc all day embarrassing yourself... Lol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: A on November 27, 2017, 07:16:22 pm
6-3*
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Momo85 on November 27, 2017, 07:48:58 pm
I agree secret

And to add on to what puppy said.. I think we need a few more admins to be active and help out sword(I’m down to be an admin but since I play I rather not be an admin). There’s a lot of people who don’t play league but like obsing or watching replays.. I feel like they would be the perfect admins.

im the beste obser and wathcing reps :D , i can be admin . :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: adi on November 27, 2017, 08:31:56 pm
Lmao we need a separate subforum like SCD's "the whore house" for BM and disallow folks to BM anywhere else, so that it does not pollute discussions that are actually productive...
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 08:41:12 pm
Agreed adi... I don’t mind bm but really would’ve liked more people to give their input. Lots of people complain about the league but never speak up. And there’s a lot of people with brighter ideas than myself.
 
But I don’t regret making this thread because it’s rare a thread even gets to its 4th page so I might consider making more just to make some noise on certain issues.

Momo would be a decent admin. But at the end of the day I think SworD should be the only one to make the calls.. but it would be much easier for him to make decisions when there’s 2-3 admins presenting stuff to him.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 27, 2017, 08:43:54 pm
Sword can handle everyone on his own
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: eL]ToRpEdo[ on November 27, 2017, 10:24:12 pm
Agreed adi... I don’t mind bm but really would’ve liked more people to give their input. Lots of people complain about the league but never speak up. And there’s a lot of people with brighter ideas than myself.
 
But I don’t regret making this thread because it’s rare a thread even gets to its 4th page so I might consider making more just to make some noise on certain issues.

Momo would be a decent admin. But at the end of the day I think SworD should be the only one to make the calls.. but it would be much easier for him to make decisions when there’s 2-3 admins presenting stuff to him.

People don't give their input cause people who aren't top 10 in league get told to stfu / stop crying because their opinions are worthless . I've said over three times I'd love to help on other forums as ReM Mays . But it's up to sword , none of us .

This is a fantastic thread and a very good example of what should be happening more often, the community working together on a topic and talking things out rather than verbally destroying one another haha

I think the tournament Idea is sweet . And for league points? Even better .. I assume all games would be league games too. I think this is something that could really really work well
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Grrrr... on November 27, 2017, 10:26:35 pm

People don't give their input cause people who aren't top 10 in league get told to stfu / stop crying because their opinions are worthless . I've said over three times I'd love to help on other forums as ReM Mays . But it's up to sword , none of us .

This is a fantastic thread and a very good example of what should be happening more often, the community working together on a topic and talking things out rather than verbally destroying one another haha

I think the tournament Idea is sweet . And for league points? Even better .. I assume all games would be league games too. I think this is something that could really really work well
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amen
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 27, 2017, 11:18:59 pm
Agreed adi... I don’t mind bm but really would’ve liked more people to give their input. Lots of people complain about the league but never speak up. And there’s a lot of people with brighter ideas than myself.
 
But I don’t regret making this thread because it’s rare a thread even gets to its 4th page so I might consider making more just to make some noise on certain issues.

Momo would be a decent admin. But at the end of the day I think SworD should be the only one to make the calls.. but it would be much easier for him to make decisions when there’s 2-3 admins presenting stuff to him.

People don't give their input cause people who aren't top 10 in league get told to stfu / stop crying because their opinions are worthless . I've said over three times I'd love to help on other forums as ReM Mays . But it's up to sword , none of us .

This is a fantastic thread and a very good example of what should be happening more often, the community working together on a topic and talking things out rather than verbally destroying one another haha

I think the tournament Idea is sweet . And for league points? Even better .. I assume all games would be league games too. I think this is something that could really really work well

Thanks for your response.. I personally like hearing anyone’s input no matter who it is.. I would never tell any one to stfu and there’s very few people who would. So I’d just like to say anyone’s ideas are welcomed. But I also know where you’re coming from.

How do you feel about tiers? Are you more likely to play “top players” knowing that you will win more and lose less points?  And yeah tournaments would be pretty cool except no ones signs up for them.

BaO just posted a 32-man 1v1 tourney paying 1st-4th and somehow we can’t get 32 players to sign up? This is clearly disappointing as we all know there’s at least 40 of us but for some reason no one wants for play for free money... it doesn’t make sense when there’s people complaining about activity but won’t do anything about it lol hopefully this is a start.

 

Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Puppy on November 28, 2017, 12:07:42 am
Lmao we need a separate subforum like SCD's "the whore house" for BM and disallow folks to BM anywhere else, so that it does not pollute discussions that are actually productive...
Great Idea, the bm can get out of hand.

Agreed adi... I don’t mind bm but really would’ve liked more people to give their input. Lots of people complain about the league but never speak up. And there’s a lot of people with brighter ideas than myself.
 
But I don’t regret making this thread because it’s rare a thread even gets to its 4th page so I might consider making more just to make some noise on certain issues.

Momo would be a decent admin. But at the end of the day I think SworD should be the only one to make the calls.. but it would be much easier for him to make decisions when there’s 2-3 admins presenting stuff to him.
I believe all appreciate your input.

Sword can handle everyone on his own
No one has said he cannot. BaO gaining access to provide UGL points as incentive, is a responsibility meant for an admin not a regular site user.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: PuMa on November 28, 2017, 03:10:01 am
Agreed adi... I don’t mind bm but really would’ve liked more people to give their input. Lots of people complain about the league but never speak up. And there’s a lot of people with brighter ideas than myself.
 
But I don’t regret making this thread because it’s rare a thread even gets to its 4th page so I might consider making more just to make some noise on certain issues.

Momo would be a decent admin. But at the end of the day I think SworD should be the only one to make the calls.. but it would be much easier for him to make decisions when there’s 2-3 admins presenting stuff to him.

People don't give their input cause people who aren't top 10 in league get told to stfu / stop crying because their opinions are worthless . I've said over three times I'd love to help on other forums as ReM Mays . But it's up to sword , none of us .

This is a fantastic thread and a very good example of what should be happening more often, the community working together on a topic and talking things out rather than verbally destroying one another haha

I think the tournament Idea is sweet . And for league points? Even better .. I assume all games would be league games too. I think this is something that could really really work well

^^ this.

People don't need to play 24/7 to give their opinion. It's just that, an opinion. And its creating activity to the site.
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: TealSilverSteal on November 28, 2017, 05:10:50 am
Heres one, Matt you fucking suck. Get raped less Noob!
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: eL]ToRpEdo[ on November 28, 2017, 07:38:54 am
Agreed adi... I don’t mind bm but really would’ve liked more people to give their input. Lots of people complain about the league but never speak up. And there’s a lot of people with brighter ideas than myself.
 
But I don’t regret making this thread because it’s rare a thread even gets to its 4th page so I might consider making more just to make some noise on certain issues.

Momo would be a decent admin. But at the end of the day I think SworD should be the only one to make the calls.. but it would be much easier for him to make decisions when there’s 2-3 admins presenting stuff to him.

People don't give their input cause people who aren't top 10 in league get told to stfu / stop crying because their opinions are worthless . I've said over three times I'd love to help on other forums as ReM Mays . But it's up to sword , none of us .

This is a fantastic thread and a very good example of what should be happening more often, the community working together on a topic and talking things out rather than verbally destroying one another haha

I think the tournament Idea is sweet . And for league points? Even better .. I assume all games would be league games too. I think this is something that could really really work well

Thanks for your response.. I personally like hearing anyone’s input no matter who it is.. I would never tell any one to stfu and there’s very few people who would. So I’d just like to say anyone’s ideas are welcomed. But I also know where you’re coming from.

How do you feel about tiers? Are you more likely to play “top players” knowing that you will win more and lose less points?  And yeah tournaments would be pretty cool except no ones signs up for them.

BaO just posted a 32-man 1v1 tourney paying 1st-4th and somehow we can’t get 32 players to sign up? This is clearly disappointing as we all know there’s at least 40 of us but for some reason no one wants for play for free money... it doesn’t make sense when there’s people complaining about activity but won’t do anything about it lol hopefully this is a start.

of course i would play higher end players if this was the case. they wouldn't play me though.
i am going to sign up as soon as i can
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: SilverBullet on November 29, 2017, 12:36:09 am
It seems like what you're describing is a standard ELO that doesn't reset between seasons.

But then you have the problem of motivating people to play a bunch of games each season.

Enter ELO decay.

But now I'm playing games just to avoid decay and I don't feel a sense of progress.

Enter fake rating system to inject the system with points that have no value for the sake of progress.

aaaaaaaaaand now we have sc2 MMR system :D
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 29, 2017, 01:51:36 am
But we kind of already do this anyways.. in this system we won’t have the same top 5 players every season.. it’s a level playing field for everybody. I doubt it would happen though but we should make is so Mid Z earns more points and Protoss wins vs Mid z or mid t earn less points .
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: SilverBullet on November 29, 2017, 03:23:02 am
Why not start with eliminating mid spots altogether? I think the protoss superiority is strong enough that it'd still be P favored
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 29, 2017, 11:47:38 am
Id prefer not to cause if both players are corner that’s an instant 30 min + game no matter the match up. And mid base is still winnable.. it’s not like it’s an automatic loss if you’re mid. I think adjusting the points would be best thing to try out.. but idk if its possible to even do that lol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: DryFly on November 29, 2017, 01:07:28 pm
Wow good idea tyga.. already said this on the first page
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: ZeuZ on November 29, 2017, 02:03:27 pm
No one said anything about it and I thought about it before you posted it anyways lol
Title: Re: Something pretty nerdy..
Post by: Kush_Ld[FuN] on November 29, 2017, 03:58:25 pm
Better players? Like who?? All you do is noob bash. You’ve never EVER had as good of a record as I have had in seasons. The proof is on the site you idiot so idk why you would lie when anyone/everyone can just look it up. Ffs you’re in my “records” but you’re kinda like noob bashing when I play you. True!! Name 1 season where I haven’t played the exact players??? Let’s here it?? Exactly. Not to mention you won’t even play me this season at all. Wanna bo5 no rules like old times??? (Already know the answer). So your statement is false and false on the record thing to. Not even a nice try.

What are you talking about? why would Dryfly noob bash if he has won multiple seasons in ugl and has always played great players Tyga/rabbit/hardy?. Im pretty sure he would win a bo5 against you lol
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Post by: ZeuZ on November 29, 2017, 04:11:16 pm
Better players? Like who?? All you do is noob bash. You’ve never EVER had as good of a record as I have had in seasons. The proof is on the site you idiot so idk why you would lie when anyone/everyone can just look it up. Ffs you’re in my “records” but you’re kinda like noob bashing when I play you. True!! Name 1 season where I haven’t played the exact players??? Let’s here it?? Exactly. Not to mention you won’t even play me this season at all. Wanna bo5 no rules like old times??? (Already know the answer). So your statement is false and false on the record thing to. Not even a nice try.

What are you talking about? why would Dryfly noob bash if he has won multiple seasons in ugl and has always played great players Tyga/rabbit/hardy?. Im pretty sure he would win a bo5 against you lol



Dryfly has dodged me to the point were I’m begging for him to play me and he played Gus instead.. and he has never played rabbit 50x in a season as I have a few times. He won’t play matt if he picks p to which me rabbit or jake don’t mind if he picks P and would mass games vs him
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Post by: beaTz- on November 29, 2017, 04:25:49 pm
Better players? Like who?? All you do is noob bash. You’ve never EVER had as good of a record as I have had in seasons. The proof is on the site you idiot so idk why you would lie when anyone/everyone can just look it up. Ffs you’re in my “records” but you’re kinda like noob bashing when I play you. True!! Name 1 season where I haven’t played the exact players??? Let’s here it?? Exactly. Not to mention you won’t even play me this season at all. Wanna bo5 no rules like old times??? (Already know the answer). So your statement is false and false on the record thing to. Not even a nice try.

What are you talking about? why would Dryfly noob bash if he has won multiple seasons in ugl and has always played great players Tyga/rabbit/hardy?. Im pretty sure he would win a bo5 against you lol

Coles always dodged, even back in scd he would just bash gravedigga to maintain his cute records.
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Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on November 29, 2017, 04:52:17 pm
You guys are right, cole is too scared to play sithlords P where tyga and defjam both raped him PVP easily. Stop being a pussy cole.
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Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on November 29, 2017, 04:55:45 pm
Brain best of all time ez.
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Post by: Puppy on November 29, 2017, 05:09:00 pm
Point Decay fixed this issue for VGT. Confirmed.
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Post by: Puppy on November 29, 2017, 05:09:47 pm
Point Decay fixed this issue for VGT. Confirmed.
Also shorter seasons and a more consistent (shorter) off season where people know the start date of the next season can increase activity.
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Post by: DryFly on November 29, 2017, 06:59:30 pm
When I was active and dominated scd and the first half of ugl you were just as active but hid as a "2s player" never challenged me in a season once cuz u were nobody. The game got inactive and I lost interest and all of a sudden you start playing 1s leagues when I'm not playing ?? Not to mention the season u dodged me to play hari 4x bonus matchups on the last day. Look how many games I trolled u last season playing at 100apm and doing random shit. You don't know how to scout or read a game without ur nerd friends cheating for u. Like u got caught and suspended for in the past.

There's the level Iv reached at this game then there's the level you/omni/kon are at. Good players but will never reach the level I was at. Archives and replays speak for themselves
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Post by: ZeuZ on November 29, 2017, 08:10:46 pm
lol never hid from you . You dodged me A LOT of times. I’ve never dodged anyone.. you dodge matt, dodged dinko and the only time you played rabbit more than 5x he 13-2’d you .

I’ve won a few seasons you’ve played in.. and about hari.. you were like A- when I was S  AND that whole season you dodged me until I was a higher rank than you so I didn’t wanna play you since you ducked me the whole season lol.

Lol this thing about cheating that was like 6 yrs ago and never happened.. bang was jealous cause I was like 20-0 that season and like 15 wins were on him so he said he cheated for me.

To me you’re not that good.. youve DODGE wayyyyy too many times to be considered the best.. you only massed games vs Gus and gravedigga and this is factual.

You’ve NEVER had a season where you played 50+ games with either me or rabbit jake dinko or kon..
You noob bash till you’re 35-0 then sit up top and pick and choose your games.. in total we’ve probably played like 15x meanwhile I’ve played jake and rabbit at least 200x
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Post by: DryFly on November 29, 2017, 08:53:44 pm
i retired dinko
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Post by: Puppy on November 30, 2017, 12:11:35 am
Grudge matches!!!! Post replays!!!
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Post by: A on November 30, 2017, 12:28:00 pm
Tyga vs Dryfly bo10 . Let's see who's better .. Lol this would be fun to watch. My money's on Tyga ! Tyga owns all!
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Post by: TealSilverSteal on November 30, 2017, 12:52:07 pm
I think we all should focus on this korean dude, Brain. lets rape him instead..... Hes making us look bad ( thx Matt, fucking twat )
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Post by: Kush_Ld[FuN] on November 30, 2017, 01:26:48 pm
lol never hid from you . You dodged me A LOT of times. I’ve never dodged anyone.. you dodge matt, dodged dinko and the only time you played rabbit more than 5x he 13-2’d you .

I’ve won a few seasons you’ve played in.. and about hari.. you were like A- when I was S  AND that whole season you dodged me until I was a higher rank than you so I didn’t wanna play you since you ducked me the whole season lol.

Lol this thing about cheating that was like 6 yrs ago and never happened.. bang was jealous cause I was like 20-0 that season and like 15 wins were on him so he said he cheated for me.

To me you’re not that good.. youve DODGE wayyyyy too many times to be considered the best.. you only massed games vs Gus and gravedigga and this is factual.

You’ve NEVER had a season where you played 50+ games with either me or rabbit jake dinko or kon..
You noob bash till you’re 35-0 then sit up top and pick and choose your games.. in total we’ve probably played like 15x meanwhile I’ve played jake and rabbit at least 200x

I get you. Although some people may dodge to keep their records looking nice, still doesnt take away the fact Cole is a top level player. BTW didnt realize you were Tyga <3
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Post by: A on November 30, 2017, 01:56:34 pm
Lol Matt went into Hiding after getting owned by Evil and Brain.
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Post by: TealSilverSteal on November 30, 2017, 02:37:23 pm
Hahahah..... Matt, where are you o.O)
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Post by: DumpsterMan on December 01, 2017, 11:03:23 am
Who is Evil-?
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Post by: Puppy on December 01, 2017, 01:52:23 pm
Evil + sith play a lot of 1s together (you'll notice sith will play r vs his friends), evil was sexy-evil tyga sexy-silence back at the end of vgt into scz.

Beyond Muve and Gus (both of whom got wrecked), who else is going to play this guy? Lot of bm when no1 is signing up to beat him.
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Post by: JohnnyNutsack on December 01, 2017, 06:58:47 pm
Evil + sith play a lot of 1s together (you'll notice sith will play r vs his friends), evil was sexy-evil tyga sexy-silence back at the end of vgt into scz.

Beyond Muve and Gus (both of whom got wrecked), who else is going to play this guy? Lot of bm when no1 is signing up to beat him.

One of the problems is he seems to only play at like early-mid morning/afternoon, when a lot of people are probably at work.
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Post by: adi on December 01, 2017, 07:45:26 pm
Yeah because after-work for us is work time in Korea. Probably weekends are best time to catch those guys
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Post by: A on December 02, 2017, 09:43:00 am
Lol at least Muve beat him once. I know he can own me easily I just think Sith has a poor sportsman ship and talks to much . Yeah he only plays his  friends rvr because he cant beat any1 else in rvr. He wouldn't be in top 10 if he went rvr. That's all I'm saying people who plays all races has skills .  I'm Glad Brain came along, I love watching his replays They're so fun to watch.