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SCW COMMUNITY => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: AoW-Liquid on January 19, 2018, 03:15:06 pm
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I'm AoW-Liquid
Many of you know me from my trolling of battle.net days, many from before that when I was one of original members of Clan AoW and known as LiquidSmoke. I've been around on BNet under that alias and BringBushDown, among hundreds of troll accounts since 99.
Most of you hate me because I enjoy trolling people pretty hard....and I may have some special skills that make it a bit annoying, meh, what I can say.
I've been gone for the last year and a half because I had a kid and devoted all my time to him, my wife and my job, I've now switched sides in life and I'm on the other side of the fence in the IT world. I spend most my time stopping people like the person I used to enjoy being. It's fun and pretty entertaining.
I installed the remastered version of Starcraft the other day and played a few games. I loved the fact that out of 6 games, 4 of them had people who knew me and they let me know who they were. Funny how all the same people have stuck this game out over the last two decades.
I'm only writing this because I have some downtime at work and was looking for the old unigl.net site and wandered my way here. I also thought it would be interesting to open up a discussion to see what happened, I know I had ALOT of people who despised me, but secretly, there were a lot more of you who respected me and would always, eventually, ask me to help you cheat your way to a UGL title or win a game vs someone you couldn't beat. (did I ever do it?? hmm...IDK, maybe..)
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WELCOME BACK!!
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Hello :)
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BLITZ_SNIPER? SNIPER_BLITZ that you ?
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Yo Liquid you remember me nigga ? .D
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Interesting, if you would share ur facts on how and who you helped for a title. Wed welcome that.
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TealSilverSteal - I'm sure it would be, but at this point, what does it really matter??
I simply came back here because I've always really enjoyed observing games and this league has some pretty talented players. Many of my feuds actually started because someone wouldn't let me observe games because they're dicks.(see Kon for references) :)
I am open for any question that don't involve me selling another player out. I'm no snitch.
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So you admit to being a cheater and a troll and then get mad when people ban you from games. Makes a lot of sense
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How does it make me a cheater? I never leagued, I never got mad, I actually laughed as I punked little whiny kids like yourself. I'm fine with being a troll, I find it humorous when people like you rage out because you can't play your precious game.
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"I know I had ALOT of people who despised me, but secretly, there were a lot more of you who respected me and would always, eventually, ask me to help you cheat your way to a UGL title or win a game vs someone you couldn't beat. (did I ever do it?? hmm...IDK, maybe..)"
You called yourself a cheater in your first post..
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Cheater (definition) - a person who acts dishonestly in order to gain an advantage.
By definition, no I'm not a cheater, I had no advantage to gain and no stock in the outcome of the league, as I was never enrolled in the league, nor did I care who won. Technically, the users who asked me would be considered the cheaters.
And did that first post imply I cheated? OR did it imply multiple individuals asked me to help them and I didn't confirm nor deny doing it, once again, because I'm a troll.
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redundant answer liquid. if you participated in cheating for the league. that makes you a cheater lmao.
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that's like hiring a hitman and having the hitman say" I'm not a murderer I wasn't involved in their life I just killed them"
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It takes two to cheat in the scenario you presented. You may not be getting an advantage through the league, but you're helping someone gain an advantage. So as an accomplice, you'd be labeled a cheater too. But you do get some advantage out of it, or you wouldn't do it. It may not be a visible advantage to anyone in the community, but clearly as a lifetime troll you get some personal satisfaction out of it.
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yea clearly hes getting "respect" for it. he gets none such from me. who respects someone like that? I respect the players who put in the effort to actually get good.
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If you would like to apologize to me I would forgive you though.
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Nobody asked for shit from you sNipEr.ScopE, who are you anyways for someone to want respect from, you're just another sad little nerd.
As for Kon, yeah only pleasure I ever got out of anything was watching Kon rage out and whine on forums how he couldn't play his precious game 24/7, because, well, that's all he has. Which is pretty pathetic. Just so you know Kon, people begged me to fuck with you, even your "friends" secretly hated on your nerd raging ass, I found it incredibly amusing how two faced everyone on here is.
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Just for the record, people respected me for a plethora of reasons, it wasn't just because I trolled kids. I helped multiple people solve their router issues with creating games, helped them with computer problems. Shit, I even remoted in to Peter's (NlN) machine once to fix some issues of his (and that shit was even in another language). I even often shot the shit with Jacek on the security/pen testing side of things regarding this site.
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it probably mattered to the people who didn't win the seasons or the games that were cheated in. helping people cheat is the most sad pathetic thing ive ever heard lmao.
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Well that brings back the original question, who are you and why would anyone give a shit what sad a nerd like you thought. I find it amusing that you're continuing to post here, as if your comments or opinions matter to me, or anyone else.
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Lol Liquid You can't call some1 a nerd. When all u do is troll , cheat in a VIDEO GAME and kick people off the internet .. LMAO That's pretty nerdy to me. Also a sad life u lived...
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Please, I used to goof off when I was bored at work and trolled kids occasionally. I have a better life than the majority of you nerds here. There's nothing that you can say that will change that or that'll will faze me. But, feel free to try.
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Lol Clearly you don't have a Better life when you have to troll people on the internet. You just made a fool of yourself on here, Get lost goof.
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Chandler, I shit all over every aspect of your life. I'm not sure if that response was your half-assed down syndrome way of coming at me, but calling me a "goof" and telling me to get lost, really? Kill yourself fag. You're so far removed from my level, I'm not even sure why you wasted your time posting something.
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Admin ? Ban this guy? For saying to go kill myself...
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Kill Your Self
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lmao wow, You can't handle the truth about yourself eh Liquid, What a low life you are. Good bye Goof.
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Sword, Why havn t u ban him yet? you going let this non sense go on your site? Don't be afraid of this Hacker. We have your back. I'm pretty sure Brain has a few tricks..
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Dude, "Sword", aka Jacek, is a friend of mine on here, if he has a problem with my trolling, he'll take it up with me, I was speaking to him earlier. Nobody cares about your whiny shit. You've embarrassed yourself, so why don't you get lost you goof.
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Chandler, why haven't you voted on my poll yet?
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Sword, Why havn t u ban him yet? you going let this non sense go on your site? Don't be afraid of this Hacker. We have your back. I'm pretty sure Brain has a few tricks..
if we banned all trolls there would be very few people left here.. with that said, there is a line when it comes to BM that nobody has a right to cross, but for now, this thread just seems to feature trolling and counter-trolling more than anything else
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+1 for freedom of speech
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Lmao nice come back Liquid, you said the exact same thing I did. Sword didnt you post earlier about people being racist or people saying go kill yourself or family members they would be banned ? Clearly you're not following through . Keep sucking Liquid dick Sword you're to afarid of this hacker. Peace out duck this stupid league I hope it dies.
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We have another rage quitter ladies and gents, looks like I still got it!
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Lol I did not rage, Stupid.
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"Keep sucking Liquid dick Sword you're to afarid of this hacker. Peace out duck this stupid league I hope it dies" sure sounds like an awful lot of rage buddy.
Just throwing it out there, but people are actually voting that you should kill yourself bro, it's 3-0, that's some cold blooded shit.
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Wow
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Take over the website?
You're coming to my thread, in which I've clearly stated I just enjoy trolling people. Yet you continue to engage me, then you get butthurt when moderators don't come to save you from your feelings being hurt by words. Does Live.Sword need to provide you a safe place here where nobody can call you names?
I don't know how the league will survive without you, your solid D account rating consisting of 6 games spanning 2 seasons brought some much to the community.
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Liquid you're so immature really and the people voting him to kill himself that's just sad. Sword you should close this stupid thread and mute liquid. What's the difference between this and what Matt did?
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BTW who gives a shit what liquid thinks anyway. Just some pub with hacks who wants to feel relevant. Lmao
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Lmao nice come back Liquid, you said the exact same thing I did. Sword didnt you post earlier about people being racist or people saying go kill yourself or family members they would be banned ? Clearly you're not following through . Keep sucking Liquid dick Sword you're to afarid of this hacker. Peace out duck this stupid league I hope it dies.
exactly this
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Oh man, I love this liquid kid. Somebody just out trolled chandler now he’s in a full meltdown. Lmao, also Gus you sit on sc all the time talking shit, why do you come on here and act so against bm. Stop being fake, maybe he can get chandler to quit this site not like he helps with activity of league.
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Nah Mark I stopped bming because it really is immature I do the occasional trolling but I always apologize to people I bm. I really just don't like the fact that this guy helped people win seasons by cheating. He should be held accountable for breaking the rules and not be allowed on the site because he fucks everything up. Stop standing up for people who kill the game, Mark have you really stooped that low? yes I bmed you Mark but you should by now that it was just a joke. All I say is normally is that ppl suck at the game, I never go and say personal shit like go kill yourself or anything like that, that's not really funny as people have actually killed themselves over things people said on the internet. not that I think anyone would here but still it is not funny.chandler.bing has a life outside of sc I don't really think he cares about what anyone here says, the guy has 6 games to his name. Mark you really sticking up for a known hacker? that's kind of sad bro lol.
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if i recall the beginning of the post liquid was basically apologizing and saying he wasnt the person he used to be, but then wes aka Chandler.bing gets going with his ugly dogface having ass like he does. Cries cause he cant handle the bm wants jacek to jump and ban. Jacek doesnt jump, lets shane be. this post was for him basiocally looking for his old AOW members not looking for all the bm... so if anybody is really in the wrong its wesley. always a crying little bitch
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Yea well he shouldn't have bmed me or acted like I should respect him for cheating in leagues that I played 100% legit in. Saying I'm a sad nerd for playing by the rules? he's the one looking for bm. I just pointed out the flaw in his logic of him stating hes "not a cheater" when he participated in helping people win money for winning season. LOL!
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Welcome back Liquid youre da best man! Thanks for ruining sc all these years!
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sNipEr.ScopE, I think you have poor reading comprehension skills, so I'm going to point a few things out..
"Yea well he shouldn't have bmed me or acted like I should respect him for cheating in leagues that I played 100% legit in."
Never said people respected me for cheating, I believe my exact words were :
"Just for the record, people respected me for a plethora of reasons, it wasn't just because I trolled kids. I helped multiple people solve their router issues with creating games, helped them with computer problems. Shit, I even remoted in to Peter's (NlN) machine once to fix some issues of his (and that shit was even in another language). I even often shot the shit with Jacek on the security/pen testing side of things regarding this site."
"I just pointed out the flaw in his logic of him stating hes "not a cheater" when he participated in helping people win money for winning season"
I never said I cheated or helped anyone cheat, I damn sure never cost anyone any money, I believe all I said was that many people asked me to help them cheat and then I made a smart ass remark that I may or may have not done it, who knows right, remember, I'm the troll, right? :
" know I had ALOT of people who despised me, but secretly, there were a lot more of you who respected me and would always, eventually, ask me to help you cheat your way to a UGL title or win a game vs someone you couldn't beat. (did I ever do it?? hmm...IDK, maybe..)"
I really just don't like the fact that this guy helped people win seasons by cheating. He should be held accountable for breaking the rules and not be allowed on the site because he fucks everything up. Stop standing up for people who kill the game,
There's no proof nor did I say I definitively helped anyone, I just pointed out people asked. Please show me what rule I've broken on the site (now don't forget how the american court system works, innocent till proven guilty, so you're going to need some sort of proof, not just hearsay.) I haven't fucked with anyone in over two years, so when you say I kill the game, I think you're mistaken, I believe I stated I was just hear to play games and observe and that those days were far behind me.
yes I bmed you Mark but you should by now that it was just a joke. All I say is normally is that ppl suck at the game, I never go and say personal shit like go kill yourself or anything like that
It's looks like on top of being borderline illiterate, you're also a hypocrite, I'm glad you get to draw the line in the sand with who says what and what hurts just the right amount.
BTW who gives a shit what liquid thinks anyway. Just some pub with hacks who wants to feel relevant. Lmao
Clearly your sad ass does, you keep coming back to my thread to argue and post dumb ass comments, like do you have nothing else better to do, maybe I was wrong, maybeI should change the poll to should you kill yourself, you may get more votes.
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sNipEr.ScopE, I think you have poor reading comprehension skills, so I'm going to point a few things out..
"Yea well he shouldn't have bmed me or acted like I should respect him for cheating in leagues that I played 100% legit in."
Never said people respected me for cheating, I believe my exact words were :
"Just for the record, people respected me for a plethora of reasons, it wasn't just because I trolled kids. I helped multiple people solve their router issues with creating games, helped them with computer problems. Shit, I even remoted in to Peter's (NlN) machine once to fix some issues of his (and that shit was even in another language). I even often shot the shit with Jacek on the security/pen testing side of things regarding this site."
"I just pointed out the flaw in his logic of him stating hes "not a cheater" when he participated in helping people win money for winning season"
I never said I cheated or helped anyone cheat, I damn sure never cost anyone any money, I believe all I said was that many people asked me to help them cheat and then I made a smart ass remark that I may or may have not done it, who knows right, remember, I'm the troll, right? :
" know I had ALOT of people who despised me, but secretly, there were a lot more of you who respected me and would always, eventually, ask me to help you cheat your way to a UGL title or win a game vs someone you couldn't beat. (did I ever do it?? hmm...IDK, maybe..)"
I really just don't like the fact that this guy helped people win seasons by cheating. He should be held accountable for breaking the rules and not be allowed on the site because he fucks everything up. Stop standing up for people who kill the game,
There's no proof nor did I say I definitively helped anyone, I just pointed out people asked. Please show me what rule I've broken on the site (now don't forget how the american court system works, innocent till proven guilty, so you're going to need some sort of proof, not just hearsay.) I haven't fucked with anyone in over two years, so when you say I kill the game, I think you're mistaken, I believe I stated I was just hear to play games and observe and that those days were far behind me.
yes I bmed you Mark but you should by now that it was just a joke. All I say is normally is that ppl suck at the game, I never go and say personal shit like go kill yourself or anything like that
It's looks like on top of being borderline illiterate, you're also a hypocrite, I'm glad you get to draw the line in the sand with who says what and what hurts just the right amount.
BTW who gives a shit what liquid thinks anyway. Just some pub with hacks who wants to feel relevant. Lmao
Clearly your sad ass does, you keep coming back to my thread to argue and post dumb ass comments, like do you have nothing else better to do, maybe I was wrong, maybeI should change the poll to should you kill yourself, you may get more votes.
All lies and horseshit. maybe you should stop trolling kid. grow up you suck at it anyway. You pub.
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Actually, everything I just posted was word for word from the thread, you're just too fucking dumb to realize how bad you are at this. Keep coming at me, you can be my new fanboy. I like knowing some little nerd on the other side of the screen it raging out and posting on my thread.
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Na youre the one begging obs games of silent.kon so it looks like youre the fanboy. get good pub. lol
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I will say you're right that I misread what you said. I cant believe I did that you basically did apologize lol. I still don't think youre innocent of helping people cheat. just admit it and say who you helped and ill totally forgive you. you can even obs my games after all this is over. I really don't get mad at this game or any1 on it.
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Yep, i have to agree with Gus.
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Does Cole still play? I know he likes to stay low key and hide under smurf aliases. I used to out him when the IP's matched.
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Matt I only said that to you because you were sending me horrible messages I don't want to repeat. As for saying that about Cole I was just going along with everything you said because I literally get tired of bming and would rather just get along with people and play a simple game. Cole is honestly one of my top 5 best friends in SC of all time. Yea I did do that but it was pure sarcasm and I liked Cole the whole time and still do.
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liquidddd it’s sexy-silence . Thought about you every now and then... happy to hear you’re doing good
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Oh I didn’t even read the comments lol it may seem like I’m one who has asked liquid for help but honestly never have. Just knew he was one smart mfer and I overall like having obs
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if gus quit there'd currently be 144 less games for league. This would be sad. At a 10 mins average, there'd be 24 hours less of SCW games being played this season (1440/60).
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I know a lot of you missed the results from the original poll. Just to recap....
"Should Chandler.Bing kill himself?"
Yes - 5 Votes
No - 1 Vote
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Never fear, alas, chandler is still with us, just smurfing in the channel, butt hurt as fuck. I'm sure if the admins looked, they'd see a smurf account tied to his IP on here as well. ( for those of you who think telling one to kill their selves is taking it too far, just verifying he's still alive)
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Seriouse... wasting time like this. Sword, you should look into this.
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Quails > AoW-Liquid at trolling. There I said it. GG no Re
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grow up people. "other side of the fence" my ass.
"(did I ever do it?? hmm...IDK, maybe..)"
Claiming you may or may not have facilitated cheating will raise suspicions. Denying such activities after being confronted with the implications of your own statement makes me wonder why you bothered mentioning such redundant information to begin with. It holds no value and does nothing but stirr up the pot, which one can conclude was your only intention. Which brings me to another claim you made; "Other side of the fence". You imply you stopped being a cause of problems and controversy, yet the implications you make and the language you use clearly indicate you simply traded one form of being a nuisance for another, as demonstrated in this thread. That's like changing clothes and saying you're now a "different person" while displaying similar behaviour. In short: you have not changed.
Another claim. "but secretly, there were a lot more of you who respected me and would always, eventually, ask me to help you cheat". In no way does "ask me to help you cheat" imply being "respected". There is no relation between the two. You filled in the blanks for which you lacked the required knowledge and came to a conclusion for which you have no basis. It doesn't exist anywhere but in your head. It leads one to believe you're delusional.
"Just for the record, people respected me for a plethora of reasons, it wasn't just because I trolled kids. I helped multiple people solve their router issues with creating games, helped them with computer problems. Shit, I even remoted in to Peter's (NlN) machine once to fix some issues of his (and that shit was even in another language). I even often shot the shit with Jacek on the security/pen testing side of things regarding this site."
Next time mention this instead. Because this is an actual reason to have respect for (minus the trolling kids part). I am shocked you're surprised people attacked you over your initial claim of being "respected" given the context you used the word in. It was a horrible choice of yours and you're to blame for the response because it was too damn obvious you'd get this response.
Also, people not letting you observe their games does in no way make them a dick. They have every right to deny you the "privelege" to observe. It is not a right that you can call on. It is a granted privelege. Now if your reputation decreases your chances at being given this privelege it is you who is to blame for that. Not the person electing to deny you said privelege. It does not justify the behaviour you have displayed and are still trying to pass off as justified.
Being an accomplice in a scheme to facilitate cheating makes you guilty of conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)
"you're just another sad little nerd."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
The whole "kill yourself" debacle is just a plain lack of respect for yourself and life. It is not even trolling, it's being a terrible person. Makes me doubt you're a father and if you are it makes me question your eligibility to be one. If you don't respect another person's life you don't deserve to have your own respected. Also, does someone being a dick to you justify being a dick to them? Because that's a rather flawed philosophy to apply to life.
"+1 for freedom of speech".
Does not justify disgusting behaviour. You have the freedom to be disgusting in behaviour but also have the freedom to experience the consequences of said behaviour.
Also, what happened to actually having to use some wit to troll people? This is just being plain annoying for the sake of being annoying. There's no cred to be claimed here. There is not a single post of quality in this entire thread.
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True shit premier.
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Another thing. The way you use the word "trolling" make it interchangeable with "bullying".
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Nice vote for buu :))) i like that .
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And I'm winning the vote how you like That mafi?
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preMier-,
Let's address your post, that you clearly put quite a bit of thought and time in to, so lets shit on you a little. (by the way, I corrected all your spelling errors in the posts below, which I find odd, you spent all this time writing this lengthy post, yet can't spell check simple words like "privilege".
Claiming you may or may not have facilitated cheating will raise suspicions. Denying such activities after being confronted with the implications of your own statement makes me wonder why you bothered mentioning such redundant information to begin with. It holds no value and does nothing but stirr up the pot, which one can conclude was your only intention. Which brings me to another claim you made; "Other side of the fence". You imply you stopped being a cause of problems and controversy, yet the implications you make and the language you use clearly indicate you simply traded one form of being a nuisance for another, as demonstrated in this thread. That's like changing clothes and saying you're now a "different person" while displaying similar behaviour. In short: you have not changed.
First, when I mentioned the other side of the fence, I meant that I was once on the black hat side of hacking/computers, now I've transitioned over to a legal job, where I'm paid greatly to stop people like who I once was. Never did I say I stopped being a problem or part of "controversy", in fact, I believe I've reiterated multiple times throughout this thread that I'm here trolling. BUT, yes, I use nothing more than my words these days. See there's a big difference between telling you to fuck yourself vs successfully executing malicious attacks to mess with your computer-related life.
Next time mention this instead. Because this is an actual reason to have respect for (minus the trolling kids part). I am shocked you're surprised people attacked you over your initial claim of being "respected" given the context you used the word in. It was a horrible choice of yours and you're to blame for the response because it was too damn obvious you'd get this response.
This is why I amended my post by clarifying the original statement, as many people here knew why they respected me, since many of them are still in contact with me on social media or even by phone, sorry that I needed to spell it out for everyone else. But in any case, I did.
Also, people not letting you observe their games does in no way make them a dick. They have every right to deny you the "privilege" to observe. It is not a right that you can call on. It is a granted privilege. Now if your reputation decreases your chances at being given this privilege it is you who is to blame for that. Not the person electing to deny you said privilege. It does not justify the behavior you have displayed and are still trying to pass off as justified.
Ok, first off, I referred to Kon as a dick, not letting me observe games was only a drop in the bucket of reasons I fucked with him. He's a dick for many reasons, not letting observe the games was the least of them, as I can always download a replay.
Being an accomplice in a scheme to facilitate cheating makes you guilty of conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)
Thanks for trying to point me to a Wiki article on conspiracy, how very absolute a Wiki article must be. So, just so we're on the same page, conspiracy charges require 2 things. First, a law must be broken. Second, there must be non-circumstantial proof that would hold up in court, otherwise you can't prove intent. Since no law was broken and there is 0 proof, I in no way fall within your conspiracy claim.
(a real source): http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/conspiracy.html
The whole "kill yourself" debacle is just a plain lack of respect for yourself and life. It is not even trolling, it's being a terrible person. Makes me doubt you're a father and if you are it makes me question your eligibility to be one. If you don't respect another person's life you don't deserve to have your own respected. Also, does someone being a dick to you justify being a dick to them? Because that's a rather flawed philosophy to apply to life.
Let me start my rebuttal here by saying, thanks for your opinion, but it's just that, an opinion. Also, thanks for trying to dictate philosophy to me, but I got enough of that in college. I'm very aware of my actions and what they mean or possible impacts they may have on others. While I appreciate your input on the matter, nothing you say changes anything in my life, how I act, or the path I follow. I regret nothing and nothing you said in this stupid shit opinionated post matters to me.
"+1 for freedom of speech".
Does not justify disgusting behavior. You have the freedom to be disgusting in behavior but also have the freedom to experience the consequences of said behavior.
Not sure what the fuck you're even trying to say here, if you're saying that my freedom of speech is situational, as long as I don't exhibit obscene behavior or offend anyone, then you may need to review the 1st amendment.
Also, what happened to actually having to use some wit to troll people? This is just being plain annoying for the sake of being annoying. There's no cred to be claimed here. There is not a single post of quality in this entire thread.
I'm glad you get to decide how people should convey themselves, whether it be trolling for malicious reasons or for the shits and giggles of just being annoying.
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Another thing...
Another thing. The way you use the word "trolling" make it interchangeable with "bullying".
Its always been a interchangeable word for bullying, here's a Wiki article, I know you love those.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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I find it amusing that someone has to create a fake account on here to come at me with such terrible success, I can only wonder if it's because they're scared of revealing who they really are and looking stupid or due to fear of possible retaliation.
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Everything premier said was true and you should just give up now. Your vote vs me even failed haha.
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I've added my replies in BOLD and ITALIC.
preMier-,
Let's address your post, that you clearly put quite a bit of thought and time in to, so lets shit on you a little. (by the way, I corrected all your spelling errors in the posts below, which I find odd, you spent all this time writing this lengthy post, yet can't spell check simple words like "privilege".
Thank you for the corrections, very kind of you. Slipped by me somehow.
Claiming you may or may not have facilitated cheating will raise suspicions. Denying such activities after being confronted with the implications of your own statement makes me wonder why you bothered mentioning such redundant information to begin with. It holds no value and does nothing but stirr up the pot, which one can conclude was your only intention. Which brings me to another claim you made; "Other side of the fence". You imply you stopped being a cause of problems and controversy, yet the implications you make and the language you use clearly indicate you simply traded one form of being a nuisance for another, as demonstrated in this thread. That's like changing clothes and saying you're now a "different person" while displaying similar behaviour. In short: you have not changed.
First, when I mentioned the other side of the fence, I meant that I was once on the black hat side of hacking/computers, now I've transitioned over to a legal job, where I'm paid greatly to stop people like who I once was. Never did I say I stopped being a problem or part of "controversy", in fact, I believe I've reiterated multiple times throughout this thread that I'm here trolling. BUT, yes, I use nothing more than my words these days. See there's a big difference between telling you to fuck yourself vs successfully executing malicious attacks to mess with your computer-related life.
You can't fault people for misunderstanding if you fail to provide sufficient information required to prevent such misunderstandings. What I was trying to say is "It's your own fault for being misunderstood".
Next time mention this instead. Because this is an actual reason to have respect for (minus the trolling kids part). I am shocked you're surprised people attacked you over your initial claim of being "respected" given the context you used the word in. It was a horrible choice of yours and you're to blame for the response because it was too damn obvious you'd get this response.
This is why I amended my post by clarifying the original statement, as many people here knew why they respected me, since many of them are still in contact with me on social media or even by phone, sorry that I needed to spell it out for everyone else. But in any case, I did.
Again, you can't fault people for coming to conclusions based on an incomplete picture you yourself provided. Nonetheless, your clarifications make you seem less bad. Which was my main point.
Also, people not letting you observe their games does in no way make them a dick. They have every right to deny you the "privilege" to observe. It is not a right that you can call on. It is a granted privilege. Now if your reputation decreases your chances at being given this privilege it is you who is to blame for that. Not the person electing to deny you said privilege. It does not justify the behavior you have displayed and are still trying to pass off as justified.
Ok, first off, I referred to Kon as a dick, not letting me observe games was only a drop in the bucket of reasons I fucked with him. He's a dick for many reasons, not letting observe the games was the least of them, as I can always download a replay.
Same as the above. You sketched an incomplete picture which can only lead to a misunderstanding. If you're going to share the least he's done people will use that against you as you didn't build yourself a strong case because the reason you provided was pathetic. Now if you had provided information that strengthened your statement we would be having an entirely different discussion.
Being an accomplice in a scheme to facilitate cheating makes you guilty of conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)
Thanks for trying to point me to a Wiki article on conspiracy, how very absolute a Wiki article must be. So, just so we're on the same page, conspiracy charges require 2 things. First, a law must be broken. Second, there must be non-circumstantial proof that would hold up in court, otherwise you can't prove intent. Since no law was broken and there is 0 proof, I in no way fall within your conspiracy claim.
(a real source): http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/conspiracy.html
I never claimed you did cheat. It was a "in case you did" kind of a response. If you did you would be guilty of conspiracy within the subjective set of rules/laws that were at the time applied by UGL because you would have broken said rules. But given there is no evidence and only the suggestion you yourself made, a discussion about it is all we can have.
The whole "kill yourself" debacle is just a plain lack of respect for yourself and life. It is not even trolling, it's being a terrible person. Makes me doubt you're a father and if you are it makes me question your eligibility to be one. If you don't respect another person's life you don't deserve to have your own respected. Also, does someone being a dick to you justify being a dick to them? Because that's a rather flawed philosophy to apply to life.
Let me start my rebuttal here by saying, thanks for your opinion, but it's just that, an opinion. Also, thanks for trying to dictate philosophy to me, but I got enough of that in college. I'm very aware of my actions and what they mean or possible impacts they may have on others. While I appreciate your input on the matter, nothing you say changes anything in my life, how I act, or the path I follow. I regret nothing and nothing you said in this stupid shit opinionated post matters to me.
You have the right to freely be as you desire to be. I respect that right. But is it something you can tell your child about in the future and take pride in? Or would you not tell him? "Hey I used to be a bully. I hope you too will bully the other kids and take pride in it!"
From that angle your behaviour turns a little pathetic and absurd.
"+1 for freedom of speech".
Does not justify disgusting behavior. You have the freedom to be disgusting in behavior but also have the freedom to experience the consequences of said behavior.
Not sure what the fuck you're even trying to say here, if you're saying that my freedom of speech is situational, as long as I don't exhibit obscene behavior or offend anyone, then you may need to review the 1st amendment.
No, your freedom of speech is not situational and I never implied such. I said that every action has a consequence and that freedom of speech does not excempt you from it, albeit worded in a more cryptic fashion. If you insult someone right in their face don't be surprised about the fist that's going to break your jaw.
Also, what happened to actually having to use some wit to troll people? This is just being plain annoying for the sake of being annoying. There's no cred to be claimed here. There is not a single post of quality in this entire thread.
I'm glad you get to decide how people should convey themselves, whether it be trolling for malicious reasons or for the shits and giggles of just being annoying.
You seem to take pride in your trolling, I suggested that there is none to be found in your particular manner of trolling. Now if your trolling were smart and of a high caliber I'd give credit where due.
I find it amusing that someone has to create a fake account on here to come at me with such terrible success, I can only wonder if it's because they're scared of revealing who they really are and looking stupid or due to fear of possible retaliation.
It pains me you've already forgotten me. We used to talk quite a lot on Battle.net. About Quails, about the things you used to do on EAST, what clans you were in and who your mates were, how you could figure out who smurfed and what their accounts were because you had a bot in the channel that revealed it. All that kind of stuff. I've used preMier- for years and have used it on UGL too. I recently heard about Starcraftworld from Adovcate[zT] and decided to check up on the activity.
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Sniper,
You've been defeated, move on from here, no need to get behind preMier- as his hype man.
preMier- ,
Although your name looked familiar, I didn't immediately remember you, unless you were someone who really stood out to me or someone I considered as close to me on here, chances are I've forgotten about most of our interactions. So, don't get your feelings hurt, I guess what we had just wasn't that special.
...I do recall you now that you mention "Quails".
Unfortunately, I stand behind my post, there isn't much validity to what you said as the vast majority of it was either incorrect, misinterpreted or just consisted of opinions.
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Sniper,
You've been defeated, move on from here, no need to get behind preMier- as his hype man.
preMier- ,
Although your name looked familiar, I didn't immediately remember you, unless you were someone who really stood out to me or someone I considered as close to me on here, chances are I've forgotten about most of our interactions. So, don't get your feelings hurt, I guess what we had just wasn't that special.
...I do recall you now that you mention "Quails".
Unfortunately, I stand behind my post, there isn't much validity to what you said as the vast majority of it was either incorrect, misinterpreted or just consisted of opinions.
how have I been defeated lmao. Look at your poll results I'm up idiot. You lost.
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Seriously doubt this guy has a wife and kid, every post is just embarrassing to read knowing this person is beyond the age of 14.
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You gotta come up with a more convincing g "win" than that buddy. Kudos for going clean on the hacking. Now maybe you'll watch your big mouth.
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Sniper,
You may win the poll but your trash talk responses could use some serious work.
I really don't care what any of you think about me here, if I did, I wouldn't open myself up on a thread like this to have people come at me.
MrAKon,
You can be embarrassed for me, or have all the doubt in who I say I am, it doesn't make anything I say any less true, nor does it remotely bother me. yes I'm far beyond the age of 14 and while I'm on here posting this, I'm getting paid most likely 5x what you make in an hour. Multiple people in the community know me in real life, feel free to speak to La.Revelations or NIN if you care that much to second guess what I say.
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"No" Represent!!!
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Sniper,
You've been defeated, move on from here, no need to get behind preMier- as his hype man.
preMier- ,
Although your name looked familiar, I didn't immediately remember you, unless you were someone who really stood out to me or someone I considered as close to me on here, chances are I've forgotten about most of our interactions. So, don't get your feelings hurt, I guess what we had just wasn't that special.
...I do recall you now that you mention "Quails".
Unfortunately, I stand behind my post, there isn't much validity to what you said as the vast majority of it was either incorrect, misinterpreted or just consisted of opinions.
I was looking forward to a more detailed response. I was quite enjoying myself given the intense boredom I am suffering.
I really don't care what any of you think about me here, if I did, I wouldn't open myself up on a thread like this to have people come at me.
If you don't care what people think of you, why are you here giving people a platform allowing them to tell you what they think of you? Why are you correcting people who incorrectly perceive you? Why are you defending yourself on multiple occasions?
MrAKon,
You can be embarrassed for me, or have all the doubt in who I say I am, it doesn't make anything I say any less true, nor does it remotely bother me. yes I'm far beyond the age of 14 and while I'm on here posting this, I'm getting paid most likely 5x what you make in an hour. Multiple people in the community know me in real life, feel free to speak to La.Revelations or NIN if you care that much to second guess what I say.
Claiming something to be true without providing evidence of said claims makes claming your claims are true rather redundant. What does the amount of money you get paid have to do with anything? It is an irrelevant bit of superficial information that does not contribute in any way whatsoever other than to bolster your own ego. What I see when I read what you're saying is "I am cool, I am better, you can't phase me, I am smart, I am (insert)." It is a rather pathetic form of enforcing external validation of self-perceived valuable personality traits and or achievements that are superficial at best and not a trait of personality or identity in any way whatsoever. In short, you try to get respect by showing off. You're resorting to non-sensical superficial arguments because you've got no arguments with any depth or meaning.
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Ah, The good old days when i was 12 years old telling people on starcraft that i make more money then them and have a better life... Lol Looks like Liquid didn't grew up... this Kid is a joke.
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I also find it funny, For a guy like Liquid that is on his computer every second of the day... He really sucks at starcraft i use to own him on US EAST all the time and I'm not even that good. He gets all mad and kicks me off the internet. Lol why are you here Liquid are you lonely in the real world? I think so.
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Oh sorry, I forgot you're a nerd.. Are you lonely in the Matrix?
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Rabbit. This is some noob level trash talk
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Lol, no Rabbit, when I'm at work, I'm on my computer most the day, see that's what my job entails, sorry you don't have it like that.
My favorite part about this thread is that everyone comes here to chime in and come at me, tell me how I'm sad and don't matter, etc, etc. Yet you guys can't stop coming to the thread to read updates and reply, what are we at, 828 views? up 50 since I left work. Quite a popular guy for people to hate on. I like it and plan to see how far we can push it, so please, keep it coming.
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Even preMier- recognized your sad excuse of trash talk. We actually agree on something.
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Even preMier- recognized your sad excuse of trash talk. We actually agree on something.
gotta give bad credit where it is deserved.
Btw, you ain't a bad person. Not a role model that's for sure. Most people are inconsistent in their expression of their authenticity. You can't hold it against them because that would be to critique your own inconsistency similarly. Gotta have a sense of equity about these things and be honest. Most one can suggest is to reflect on the self.
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To be honest, although i enjoy watching sc drama, i think there should always be a time where we all come together as a community and instead of bash on each other, we can love each other. Your not human if you have absolutely no compassion for others even if its on the internet.
Liquid - Why not donate some of that Cha-ching for the next scw season prize pool? :D
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Rabbitslayer is that pathetic loser chandler btw hahaha thought you cried and said you were quoting the site dumb kid. Pathetic nobody loser..
Perfect timing to contradict my post lol
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To be honest, although i enjoy watching sc drama, i think there should always be a time where we all come together as a community and instead of bash on each other, we can love each other. Your not human if you have absolutely no compassion for others even if its on the internet.
Liquid - Why not donate some of that Cha-ching for the next scw season prize pool? :D
Amen!
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How about some crypto? Gladly toss some at the next season's winner.
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How about some crypto? Gladly toss some at the next season's winner.
Make it rain! I am sure people would be open to that.
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You can be embarrassed for me, or have all the doubt in who I say I am, it doesn't make anything I say any less true, nor does it remotely bother me. yes I'm far beyond the age of 14 and while I'm on here posting this, I'm getting paid most likely 5x what you make in an hour. Multiple people in the community know me in real life, feel free to speak to La.Revelations or NIN if you care that much to second guess what I say.
What a loser.
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