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GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kush_Ld[FuN] on January 20, 2018, 03:01:06 pm
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Is this the same Defjam that we saw in UGL? People think Brain is the best that has ever competed in our league but is 12-8 with Defjam this season. Defjam was never mention as an elite player, but does he deserve the recognition as a top level player in the history of FMP?
PS: where the fuck is Brad (pro]chosen) when we got these monsters playing?
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Is this the same Defjam that we saw in UGL? People think Brain is the best that has ever competed in our league but is 12-8 with Defjam this season. Defjam was never mention as an elite player, but does he deserve the recognition as a top level player in the history of FMP?
PS: where the fuck is Brad (pro]chosen) when we got these monsters playing?
its 8-8- bro ;)
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As i stated before, Defjam will be the first to crack him.
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and ill be the first to tell dano shut the fuck up haha
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defjam has proven to be one of the best current players maybe the best with Brain, i would like to see hem against Crystax and Cristax again Brain but nobody likes players who doesnt face the top ones
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HAHa, Gus lol
I stand corrected.
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Defjam won the last season of UGL, no one has easy games versus him 1s or 2s. Very few weaknesses :D
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We all know that Cole went into hiding-mode. Instead of attack-mode it became double the dodging-mode. - _ -
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Defjam has been a top players for about 10 Years now. Always has played at the top level of this game. He’s a massive egotistical douchbag much like myself but is very underrated. Even though brain is something like 30-10 on him it was only a matter of time before a top player got used to him and started to put together some wins. Congrats on your wins vs brain defjam and hopefully other people will follow suit soon.
Defjam taking wins off Brain is the most impressive feat i've seen in western fastest.
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I wonder if the results would be defferent if it was bw and not on original =/ what do you guys think,I think defjam would go proly 3-4 bo7 vs Brain on orig and on bw it would be more like 5-2 for Brain.
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Defjam has been a top players for about 10 Years now. Always has played at the top level of this game. He’s a massive egotistical douchbag much like myself but is very underrated. Even though brain is something like 30-10 on him it was only a matter of time before a top player got used to him and started to put together some wins. Congrats on your wins vs brain defjam and hopefully other people will follow suit soon.
Defjam taking wins off Brain is the most impressive feat i've seen in western fastest.
Agreed. Brain is rank 6 global ladder, I didn't think anyone here could actually compete with that level SC player who is familiar with fastest. Although it not being BW does make it less surprising. I imagine that has more to do with it than anyone figuring brain out, but I guess the same argument could be made for this leagues players about BW.
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Defjam has been a top players for about 10 Years now. Always has played at the top level of this game. He’s a massive egotistical douchbag much like myself but is very underrated. Even though brain is something like 30-10 on him it was only a matter of time before a top player got used to him and started to put together some wins. Congrats on your wins vs brain defjam and hopefully other people will follow suit soon.
Defjam taking wins off Brain is the most impressive feat i've seen in western fastest.
Agreed. Brain is rank 6 global ladder, I didn't think anyone here could actually compete with that level SC player who is familiar with fastest. Although it not being BW does make it less surprising. I imagine that has more to do with it than anyone figuring brain out, but I guess the same argument could be made for this leagues players about BW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbEFhXRKjIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yPQ2Uc7mB0
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Brain is twice as good in bw and is still leagues better than anyone in sc at sc also. To say otherwise is just stupid. He’s clearly much better at bw though due to his speed and having more strats to use. More options make it better for him but less options make it easier for us to beat him due to the fact that we clearly don’t have the focus and speed/knowhow he does. Less is more in our world but he’s on another planet lol.
Brain is someone who has actually played in tournaments against REAL PRO players. That's all the information we need. I was watching this guy's stream a year ago when he used ALLWIN and HIGHLIGHT.TOP as his usernames on Fish server. He's got insane speed and accuracy and is so ridicilously efficient with his clicks too. Other people watching the streams told me he is among the best protoss players on fastest. And Unlike Rabbit and Voss he actually takes concepts we apply to fastest and applies them to improve his own game.
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Brain is twice as good in bw and is still leagues better than anyone in sc at sc also. To say otherwise is just stupid. He’s clearly much better at bw though due to his speed and having more strats to use. More options make it better for him but less options make it easier for us to beat him due to the fact that we clearly don’t have the focus and speed/knowhow he does. Less is more in our world but he’s on another planet lol.
Thats an interesting point, because Brain has been defeated much more in SC than in BW
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Brain is twice as good in bw and is still leagues better than anyone in sc at sc also. To say otherwise is just stupid. He’s clearly much better at bw though due to his speed and having more strats to use. More options make it better for him but less options make it easier for us to beat him due to the fact that we clearly don’t have the focus and speed/knowhow he does. Less is more in our world but he’s on another planet lol.
Im actually surprised with the score between you and Brain last season as you top level for fastest. I guess BW is that much more difficult to play in.
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We are all more accustomed to playing original starcraft because we've been playing it for years. Brain is more used to unit micro on BW and thus is even harder to defeat. No lurkers/medics or dts to defend early drop builds changes the early game of fmp.
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i was the very first top player to play him. Never had reps to dl or watch of him playing good ppl and didn't know who i was playing and couldn't figure him out. thats why i lost so much so early. now would be a bit different story especially when its in sc
Defjam has put in the work to beat him. They've played a lot of games versus each other. Don't underestimate the effort Defjam has put into defeating him. Other past 1s season winners dodge brain for a reason.
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MAtt, exactly what are you saying?
What about all the other damn games u played vs RAbbit, dont pretend that Brain played a diff strat, cuz he did not. They all play mostly the same. high micro/macro, using muta micro etc etc. Cut the BS already. If you were that good as you claim ud beat rabbit just the same way as defjam did.
So plz, dont act like Defjam is some random pub.....
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Hahahaha, talk about rage. Calm down, are you mad cuz ppl actually consider Defjam to be better than you? Eventho all you play is P? I know that is hard to melt in, let it go now...
Btw Rabbit dont take you seriouse, Defjam was the first to crack Rabbit and now hes doing it to Brain, which you, clearly failed. Too bad.... After Brain raped you, you went to hide, didnt you. Started playing "R" all of a sudden... comn Matt, you cant fool anyone at all.
Defjam is the nr 1. End of story...
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Ill just leave this here... one rep got over 100 downloads.
Strange that ud raped RAbbit pvp so so bad, that Brain rapes you too easy. As i stated before, ill just leave this here...
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After the pwnage, you went into hide-mode, crying.
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nothing vs defjam, but brain is a broodwar player..
not sure that brain would had those lost on bw.
but good job
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Bahahahahaahahahaha just zipped past a few seasons for a laugh and tealsilversteal would get like 1-7 and 0-2 and 1-5 LMFAOOOOOIO get lost nub..
He doesn't do well against me :( but I <3 dano since op pro]g ;)
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Dano does really well in ppvpp
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Dano does really well in ppvpp
So then you two should play me/matt in a series ? Dano been dodging me all season.
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Lol Mark, sure, but I'm really shitty at ppvpp him and saik would be a better display.
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Mark, me snd saik would play u and matt. Anytime.
Funny part is that u cried so we had to go pr - _ -
Matt, dont be sad.... its okey. You suck lmfao
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MAtt, how was that raping? mostly all games under 5 minutes, you should be ashamed of urself..... why dont you go back into hide-mode. Thatd be nice for us all. And this time ur dad wont be able to bail you out.
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Mark, me snd saik would play u and matt. Anytime.
Funny part is that u cried so we had to go pr - _ -
Matt, dont be sad.... its okey. You suck lmfao
We cried for pr then got pzvspt and raped you guys in 3 mins lmao. When are you guys trying to play?
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we going?
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they just dodged soooooooooooooooooooooo hard about 10 people witnessed it
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Im sorry, what happend to ur two last games, LMFAO. My clanleader took care of ur noobass, now stfu... Ez
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Oh Stop it Matt, ur a waste of sperm. Go download som reps from Defjam and learn how to play, k?
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yea you can clearly see I had 10+k mins just stopped his recall and we had about 300 cannons in middle killed your expo had ledge tanks on your part and we were about to push him with mass tanks and mass protoss ground. lol yea you were really "winning" matt.
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you guys killed my expo which gave me about 60+ supply and it was all going into tanks which were going straight to mark lol
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looking at those games, defjam beat 6 time brains' zerg ( without lurks since its on sc)... i dont think its an achievement.
zerg player ( low money ) focus on lurks almost all the time.
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looking at those games, defjam beat 6 time brains' zerg ( without lurks since its on sc)... i dont think its an achievement.
zerg player ( low money ) focus on lurks almost all the time.
You’re really gonna hate on Defjam? Starcraft or brood war he’s starting to go even with him every time they play. Not to mention he has a win against his P. Defjam doesn’t nearly put in the time on this game that brain does.
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looking at those games, defjam beat 6 time brains' zerg ( without lurks since its on sc)... i dont think its an achievement.
zerg player ( low money ) focus on lurks almost all the time.
You’re really gonna hate on Defjam? Starcraft or brood war he’s starting to go even with him every time they play. Not to mention he has a win against his P. Defjam doesn’t nearly put in the time on this game that brain does.
I don't think Defjam's going to win another TvP against Brain though. My gut tells me Brain can play better than he's been playing.
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looking at those games, defjam beat 6 time brains' zerg ( without lurks since its on sc)... i dont think its an achievement.
zerg player ( low money ) focus on lurks almost all the time.
You’re really gonna hate on Defjam? Starcraft or brood war he’s starting to go even with him every time they play. Not to mention he has a win against his P. Defjam doesn’t nearly put in the time on this game that brain does.
no hate at all... make your mind clear. sc and bw isnt the same for brain...
and yes brain is a nerd playing 15h+ a day... we cant change that. no one would like to be in his shoes
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I’m sorry to say but you guys are riding this guy so hard. He comes out of nowhere so people don’t know his strats or nothing. All I’m saying once people get use to how he play he will lose more. He’s gonna dominate still cause he is amazing, but he’s not unbeatable. Defjam is a monster but we have other people his skill level and better. I believe Tyga could also hang with him.
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I’m sorry to say but you guys are riding this guy so hard. He comes out of nowhere so people don’t know his strats or nothing. All I’m saying once people get use to how he play he will lose more. He’s gonna dominate still cause he is amazing, but he’s not unbeatable. Defjam is a monster but we have other people his skill level and better. I believe Tyga could also hang with him.
http://afreecatv.com/youngskh
http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Sea.KH
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqlcSsDNMYxEsem7bWY-66Q
I hope for the best in regards to western players besting koreans but history has shown there's a huge gap in potential. It is only logical to place our bets on Brain over Defjam given Brain has a way more impressive track record that not even western low map pro players can match. Whatever Rabbit/tOkki does, Brain does it faster, smarter and with better accuracy. Yes the gap is closing but to which degree can it be closed?
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I’m sorry to say but you guys are riding this guy so hard. He comes out of nowhere so people don’t know his strats or nothing. All I’m saying once people get use to how he play he will lose more. He’s gonna dominate still cause he is amazing, but he’s not unbeatable. Defjam is a monster but we have other people his skill level and better. I believe Tyga could also hang with him.
http://afreecatv.com/youngskh
http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Sea.KH
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqlcSsDNMYxEsem7bWY-66Q
I hope for the best in regards to western players besting koreans but history has shown there's a huge gap in potential. It is only logical to place our bets on Brain over Defjam given Brain has a way more impressive track record that not even western low map pro players can match. Whatever Rabbit/tOkki does, Brain does it faster, smarter and with better accuracy. Yes the gap is closing but to which degree can it be closed?
Oh god man I forgot you’re back. You’re not understanding my points. I’m saying in FMP anybody can lose. He’s a monster I’m not taking that away, but fmp being so unbalanced any1 can lose. Don’t come back riding his dick like you use to do peter/Birdy please
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I’m sorry to say but you guys are riding this guy so hard. He comes out of nowhere so people don’t know his strats or nothing. All I’m saying once people get use to how he play he will lose more. He’s gonna dominate still cause he is amazing, but he’s not unbeatable. Defjam is a monster but we have other people his skill level and better. I believe Tyga could also hang with him.
http://afreecatv.com/youngskh
http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Sea.KH
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqlcSsDNMYxEsem7bWY-66Q
I hope for the best in regards to western players besting koreans but history has shown there's a huge gap in potential. It is only logical to place our bets on Brain over Defjam given Brain has a way more impressive track record that not even western low map pro players can match. Whatever Rabbit/tOkki does, Brain does it faster, smarter and with better accuracy. Yes the gap is closing but to which degree can it be closed?
Oh god man I forgot you’re back. You’re not understanding my points. I’m saying in FMP anybody can lose. He’s a monster I’m not taking that away, but fmp being so unbalanced any1 can lose. Don’t come back riding his dick like you use to do peter/Birdy please
To critique based on merit and demerit is no dick riding, even if the critique leans towards merit in its judgement. I have always voiced my criticisms regarding both Peter's and Birdy's playstyle. I respect their strengths and ability but I am not blind to their faults and weaknesses. Peter's early PPvPP, PTvPP and PPvPT is almost entirely centered around trying to sneak in a block. He'd always attempt it before getting an edge on the mid fight and it would often cost him the mid fight because he'd have a fewer zealot count.
Please leave the dickriding non-argument out of any interactions with me. It is a discredit to yourself, not towards me.
You do however raise a fair point about FMP being unbalanced on Original, more so than on BW. We'll definitely see Defjam and others beating Brain in the future. But as Western players improve and adapt to koreans, so do the koreans improve and adapt to the west. Only time will tell in this case.
Also, you never mentioned anything about your argument being centered around the imbalance of FMP. Not until after I posted did you mention it. There was nothing to misunderstand as you never even mentioned it. You might want to work on your argumentation.
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It must of been in a different thread then. All I have been trying to say is anybody can lose in FMP. He’s dominating for sure , but we do have people who’s able to beat him.
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It must of been in a different thread then. All I have been trying to say is anybody can lose in FMP. He’s dominating for sure , but we do have people who’s able to beat him.
Tbh, I want to know what Defjam has to say about this himself.
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..............? Premier, lmfao.
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..............? Premier, lmfao.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqUsa2I_OA