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Title: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 03:00:43 am
Welcome to the "official SCW season 6 Playoffs thread".


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Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 03:01:05 am
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Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 03:06:29 am
We decided to post this thread early so everyone knows what to expect for the playoffs well before it happens.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Swagnificent on June 15, 2018, 10:11:00 am
Why not just no Mind Control on workers?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 15, 2018, 10:13:41 am
Why not just no Mind Control on workers?

That is the actual rule (which will be applied not just to the playoffs but to the entire league). To be more specific, mind controlling a worker will remain legal (for example, as a means to effectively destroy it), but constructing a command center or a hatchery will be banned
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on June 15, 2018, 10:22:54 am
So if this happens the game is over? And that player who got their worker stolen wins?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 15, 2018, 10:23:55 am
So if this happens the game is over? And that player who got their worker stolen wins?

Yes, breaking this rule is equivalent to a forfeit. if you scan your opponent having terran buildings you can immediately leave and report the game.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on June 15, 2018, 10:25:18 am
Right on
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 11:11:58 am
Why not just no Mind Control on workers?
oops, I meant to write that "on workers" bit but forgot. thanks!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on June 15, 2018, 05:53:16 pm
400 psi on an unlimited mineral patch. Sounds fair
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on June 15, 2018, 06:00:39 pm
Broodwar on fastest map is a joke anyways. That's why I don't play league anymore
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on June 15, 2018, 06:08:03 pm
It actual takes minimal effort to block a base in with cans temps reavers. P is the by far the easiest and most overpowered race on a fastest map. 
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on June 15, 2018, 06:08:23 pm
It actual takes minimal effort to block a base in with cans temps reavers. P is the by far the easiest and most overpowered race on a fastest map.
yup
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on June 15, 2018, 06:09:32 pm
Really doesn't take that much skill to obtain map control.. lol but everyone knows this. Your just trying to sound like you have skill in this game.. where you and everyone knows if you played a full season as random you would have 50% win ratio.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 06:35:52 pm
Next rule will be “no probe glitch recalls” I bet. Noobs (no offence but it’s true) making rules about what way you can use units is just crazy and is eventually gonna ruin the game.

FYI mind control on workers is banned in most pro play.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 15, 2018, 06:36:20 pm
Next rule will be “no probe glitch recalls” I bet. Noobs (no offence but it’s true) making rules about what way you can use units is just crazy and is eventually gonna ruin the game.

can you name one person other than yourself who wants to keep mc part of the game? bet you can't. ive asked brain who's a bw player and even he agreed that its unfair. it wasn't designed for a map where you have infinite resources and psi is the only real limit on army size
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 15, 2018, 06:58:27 pm
....still looking for anyone else who wants to keep mc part of the game
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 07:04:44 pm
If you guys in any way thinks it fair to take away a units ability in the game then you’re beyond retarded. Live.sword you are a fool for letting premier ruin this league. There’s no one even good enough to use mc besides me THATS y they will say “no mc” .... it’s funny how a bunch of bench warmers make these stupid rules up. And cole if p is so ez then why do I rape you pvp all the time?? This league is now a joke..

Can you convince us mind control does not break the balance of the game more than protoss itself on FMP already does?

For how easy it is to MC an enemy worker, the pay-off is just way too big. You get to play a form of 2v1 with it. You as an avid 2s player should know the implications of this.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on June 15, 2018, 07:10:36 pm
All of this coming from a 20 year Protoss player doesn’t sound biased at all
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Swagnificent on June 15, 2018, 07:57:36 pm
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.

I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.

Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on June 15, 2018, 08:08:01 pm
If you guys in any way thinks it fair to take away a units ability in the game then you’re beyond retarded. Live.sword you are a fool for letting premier ruin this league. There’s no one even good enough to use mc besides me THATS y they will say “no mc” .... it’s funny how a bunch of bench warmers make these stupid rules up. And cole if p is so ez then why do I rape you pvp all the time?? This league is now a joke..

Can you convince us mind control does not break the balance of the game more than protoss itself on FMP already does?

For how easy it is to MC an enemy worker, the pay-off is just way too big. You get to play a form of 2v1 with it. You as an avid 2s player should know the implications of this.
Yup
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on June 15, 2018, 08:13:30 pm
well i'm done argueing with you idiots. its pointless u noobs r just gonna do what u wanna do and ruin the game but w/e. Sword your statment just proves that you're singleing me out by removing mc because no one else is good enough to use it in games... why should it matter if I'M the only one who uses it? because you single me out. plain and simple. This league is a fucking joke and i won't be playing 1's in this trashy ass run league anymore. gl fucking the whole game up idiots.. PCE
Cry loser
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 15, 2018, 08:34:35 pm
well i'm done argueing with you idiots. its pointless u noobs r just gonna do what u wanna do and ruin the game but w/e. Sword your statment just proves that you're singleing me out by removing mc because no one else is good enough to use it in games... why should it matter if I'M the only one who uses it? because you single me out. plain and simple. This league is a fucking joke and i won't be playing 1's in this trashy ass run league anymore. gl fucking the whole game up idiots.. PCE

You were doing just fine when the League was on Original. You never begged us to switch to BW so you could use MC. You weren't even a subject in the discussion we had when we decided against MC.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 15, 2018, 08:49:15 pm
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.

I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.

Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.

99.999% of the time I would exactly agree with this. But I think this is an exception for several reasons:
1) the disadvantage created by this technique is exclusive to FMP only (to the extent that it is in FMP), so we should not assume it must somehow be balanced or that there must necessary be a strategy against it, especially given that it favors an already overpowered race
2) its a discrete action that you have to deliberately plan to do, and in some cases even build your gameplay around - for example, in contrast, banning lurker swarm wouldn't make sense because in some cases a player might accidentally or habitually burrow a set of units that happens to include a lurker under a swarm, etc..
3) it contradicts the very nature of StarCraft that creates a delicate balance of macro and micro. In general, no unit is so powerful that having 1 of it will change the outcome of a game. In contrast, having ONE extra unit (an SCV or a Drone) will generate 200 extra psi for your army (that does not need to be backed by workers, mind you - so it actually more than doubles your army size)
4) the possibility of mind control disrupts gameplay and strategy even when it is not used. for example, terrans can not build turrets around the map when fighting carriers; zergs cannot position hatches in the middle, due to the possibility of having the worker stolen. More generally, these races have to restrict where they can build in order to avoid having a worker stolen. So rather than promoting innovation and skill, it hampers it
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Swagnificent on June 15, 2018, 09:15:38 pm
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.

I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.

Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.

99.999% of the time I would exactly agree with this. But I think this is an exception for several reasons:
1) the disadvantage created by this technique is exclusive to FMP only (to the extent that it is in FMP), so we should not assume it must somehow be balanced or that there must necessary be a strategy against it, especially given that it favors an already overpowered race
2) its a discrete action that you have to deliberately plan to do, and in some cases even build your gameplay around - for example, in contrast, banning lurker swarm wouldn't make sense because in some cases a player might accidentally or habitually burrow a set of units that happens to include a lurker under a swarm, etc..
3) it contradicts the very nature of StarCraft that creates a delicate balance of macro and micro. In general, no unit is so powerful that having 1 of it will change the outcome of a game. In contrast, having ONE extra unit (an SCV or a Drone) will generate 200 extra psi for your army (that does not need to be backed by workers, mind you - so it actually more than doubles your army size)
4) the possibility of mind control disrupts gameplay and strategy even when it is not used. for example, terrans can not build turrets around the map when fighting carriers; zergs cannot position hatches in the middle, due to the possibility of having the worker stolen. More generally, these races have to restrict where they can build in order to avoid having a worker stolen. So rather than promoting innovation and skill, it hampers it

1. I disagree that protoss is overpowered. I believe it to be the weakest of the 3 in late game when such a strategy is viable. The reason some people believe it to be weak and others believe it to be strong, in my humble opinion, is evidence that the power of the race is up to the individual. It definitely has an early game advantage vs a lot of the popular strategies, but there are decent hard and soft counters to these strategies that we have an archive of replays of pros executing at a high level.

2. Not sure what this one has to do with anything. Lurk swarm is more often than not (by far) a deliberate technique and is also a fine one imo, like every technique.

3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it only doubles your PSI without any extra effort if you're the same race. Otherwise you gotta build t/z production buildings in order to take advantage of the gains. If you're trying to macro 400 psi of units, you'll need more resources, so it's not entirely true you won't have to back it up with extra workers or a base.

In the case where it's PvP and it does double your army, killing the probe (correct me if I'm wrong) eliminates this. It makes sense to me that if you know such a play is possible, you shouldn't be lazy with leaving probes around to be picked up. An easy enough solution would be to keep them by cannons always like if they're outside your base so when they get MC they just die quickly. Not to mention in the mirror m/u, the same strategy is viable for both sides and you could stage a double recall to get you an enemy probe as well.

4. Always occupy expos with defensive structures or offensive unites (few rines/dras/lurks/mutas/gols) should do it, especially if you scout the possibility of an MC threat. I respectfully disagree that this constitutes hampering innovation. Massing turrets over the map isn't innovation. It's been around for a minute. Keeping a ghost near your scvs to lockdown a dark archon or one of your SCVs when it gets MCd is, in contrast, innovative in this context. It sounds like a lot of these use cases could be prevented by just keeping track of your army.

IMO, the threat of MC only increases the importance that you know what your opponent is doing and that you have control/visibility of the map. These are things that are imperative to compete at a high level anyway.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 16, 2018, 12:09:47 am
I personally am not into having any rules on how players can play. I think all of this effort around 2.0 maps and trying to prove imbalances exist could have been put towards figuring out how to spot these strategies and prevent them ahead of time. It feels to me like players want to be able to play the same set of strategies over and over and never be in a situation where they are forced to react a certain way. It just doesn't seem logical to me.

I've been around for 20 years on here and know every one of the imbalance arguments. I'm not ignorant, I'm just biased towards individual liberty. I've seen players come out and go 70-5 in leagues vs pros playing only terran whenever it was "obvious" that protoss was OP. Think about how often zerg lost before dr.cheese. Think about how disadvantaged terran was until aifam.

Every strategy has a counter somewhere. Especially for how rarely the MC strategy occurs, I think we should incentivize innovating around it rather than regulating it out of existence.

99.999% of the time I would exactly agree with this. But I think this is an exception for several reasons:
1) the disadvantage created by this technique is exclusive to FMP only (to the extent that it is in FMP), so we should not assume it must somehow be balanced or that there must necessary be a strategy against it, especially given that it favors an already overpowered race
2) its a discrete action that you have to deliberately plan to do, and in some cases even build your gameplay around - for example, in contrast, banning lurker swarm wouldn't make sense because in some cases a player might accidentally or habitually burrow a set of units that happens to include a lurker under a swarm, etc..
3) it contradicts the very nature of StarCraft that creates a delicate balance of macro and micro. In general, no unit is so powerful that having 1 of it will change the outcome of a game. In contrast, having ONE extra unit (an SCV or a Drone) will generate 200 extra psi for your army (that does not need to be backed by workers, mind you - so it actually more than doubles your army size)
4) the possibility of mind control disrupts gameplay and strategy even when it is not used. for example, terrans can not build turrets around the map when fighting carriers; zergs cannot position hatches in the middle, due to the possibility of having the worker stolen. More generally, these races have to restrict where they can build in order to avoid having a worker stolen. So rather than promoting innovation and skill, it hampers it

1. I disagree that protoss is overpowered. I believe it to be the weakest of the 3 in late game when such a strategy is viable. The reason some people believe it to be weak and others believe it to be strong, in my humble opinion, is evidence that the power of the race is up to the individual. It definitely has an early game advantage vs a lot of the popular strategies, but there are decent hard and soft counters to these strategies that we have an archive of replays of pros executing at a high level.

2. Not sure what this one has to do with anything. Lurk swarm is more often than not (by far) a deliberate technique and is also a fine one imo, like every technique.

3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it only doubles your PSI without any extra effort if you're the same race. Otherwise you gotta build t/z production buildings in order to take advantage of the gains. If you're trying to macro 400 psi of units, you'll need more resources, so it's not entirely true you won't have to back it up with extra workers or a base.

In the case where it's PvP and it does double your army, killing the probe (correct me if I'm wrong) eliminates this. It makes sense to me that if you know such a play is possible, you shouldn't be lazy with leaving probes around to be picked up. An easy enough solution would be to keep them by cannons always like if they're outside your base so when they get MC they just die quickly. Not to mention in the mirror m/u, the same strategy is viable for both sides and you could stage a double recall to get you an enemy probe as well.

4. Always occupy expos with defensive structures or offensive unites (few rines/dras/lurks/mutas/gols) should do it, especially if you scout the possibility of an MC threat. I respectfully disagree that this constitutes hampering innovation. Massing turrets over the map isn't innovation. It's been around for a minute. Keeping a ghost near your scvs to lockdown a dark archon or one of your SCVs when it gets MCd is, in contrast, innovative in this context. It sounds like a lot of these use cases could be prevented by just keeping track of your army.

IMO, the threat of MC only increases the importance that you know what your opponent is doing and that you have control/visibility of the map. These are things that are imperative to compete at a high level anyway.

Race stats from last season:
PvZ:
65.188% vs 34.811%

PvT:
66.987% vs 33.012%

Protoss is clearly advantaged no matter how we might try to spin it. That doesn't mean that anyone's protoss is unbeatable by a better player, but when you get protoss, you start with a lead that the other player will need to play extra hard in order to make up for. Allowing mind control will only perpetuate this advantage.

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2. Not sure what this one has to do with anything. Lurk swarm is more often than not (by far) a deliberate technique and is also a fine one imo, like every technique.
It has to do with it that it is easy to avoid. Its not a gameplay restriction in the sense that you have to go out of your way to ensure you are within the restriction. Just don't build a second race and youre fine. Everything else is fair game.

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4. Always occupy expos with defensive structures or offensive unites (few rines/dras/lurks/mutas/gols) should do it, especially if you scout the possibility of an MC threat. I respectfully disagree that this constitutes hampering innovation. Massing turrets over the map isn't innovation. It's been around for a minute. Keeping a ghost near your scvs to lockdown a dark archon or one of your SCVs when it gets MCd is, in contrast, innovative in this context. It sounds like a lot of these use cases could be prevented by just keeping track of your army.

The difference with this strategy is that you only need to succeed once, and this binary outcome is what causes the imbalance. The thing that makes the game great is that every action has a benefit and a cost, and you need to weigh your options accordingly based on quality and quantity. For example, if I attempt 10 templar drops but my opponent puts effort into stopping them such that only 1 or 2 succeed, they paid an investment in drop defense but prevented damage to their economy due to the fact that most of the drops failed. In contrast, in order to get 400 psi, I only need to succeed once. If I really insist on taking an SCV, unless my opponent doesn't build outside of their base at all, as long as the game lasts long enough, and I try enough times, I will get one. Your suggestion of putting defense around the SCVs may appear to work in theory, but the fact is that the logistics of the situation favor the SCV thief, and not you. Its simply not practical. They can fail 99 out of 100 times to take an SCV, succeed once, and reap the same benefits as though you didn't put in any defense at all. And regardless of what it cost, it doesn't matter, they will still get the extra 200 psi. This not only encourages really long games and turtling, but it disrupts the cost/benefit balance of relevant strategies.

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3. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it only doubles your PSI without any extra effort if you're the same race. Otherwise you gotta build t/z production buildings in order to take advantage of the gains. If you're trying to macro 400 psi of units, you'll need more resources, so it's not entirely true you won't have to back it up with extra workers or a base.

At that stage in the game, money is generally not an issue, its about the combination of 200 units that you choose to make and how you use them. Having the extra 200 revokes any chance the opponent has of competing. No game has ever lasted longer than 10-15 minutes after the opponent has built the new race
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Swagnificent on June 16, 2018, 12:44:51 am
Great dialogue.

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Race stats from last season:
PvZ:
65.188% vs 34.811%

PvT:
66.987% vs 33.012%

Protoss is clearly advantaged no matter how we might try to spin it. That doesn't mean that anyone's protoss is unbeatable by a better player, but when you get protoss, you start with a lead that the other player will need to play extra hard in order to make up for. Allowing mind control will only perpetuate this advantage.

I'm not sure this is sufficient evidence. For instance, in the old pro scene, terran had a statistical disadvantage such as you pointed out. But Flash and others innovated the various matchups to the point where now it's statistically advantageous to play as terran if you use those strategies. I think it's entirely plausible and likely that such strategies will be found for z and t that give them statistically significant gains in the future. I think our community is small enough that homogenous gameplay from users can contribute to a lot of that.

I think this is a vanity metric, in that it lacks substance to really get anything useful out of. It'd be really interesting if we got more granular with our analytics. I bet that is the key to z and t overcoming this deficit.

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The difference with this strategy is that you only need to succeed once, and this binary outcome is what causes the imbalance. The thing that makes the game great is that every action has a benefit and a cost, and you need to weigh your options accordingly based on quality and quantity. For example, if I attempt 10 templar drops but my opponent puts effort into stopping them such that only 1 or 2 succeed, they paid an investment in drop defense but prevented damage to their economy due to the fact that most of the drops failed. In contrast, in order to get 400 psi, I only need to succeed once. If I really insist on taking an SCV, unless my opponent doesn't build outside of their base at all, as long as the game lasts long enough, and I try enough times, I will get one. Your suggestion of putting defense around the SCVs may appear to work in theory, but the fact is that the logistics of the situation favor the SCV thief, and not you. Its simply not practical. They can fail 99 out of 100 times to take an SCV, succeed once, and reap the same benefits as though you didn't put in any defense at all. And regardless of what it cost, it doesn't matter, they will still get the extra 200 psi. This not only encourages really long games and turtling, but it disrupts the cost/benefit balance of relevant strategies.

I'm pretty sure that terran MC units need terran food, like supply depots. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This alone is a huge obstacle for someone using this MC strategy to overcome, especially when your opponent isn't just sitting around. Not to mention if you create a focused attack on the location where the MC "infestation" has occurred, you can eliminate the threat. It's simply a tactic that manufactures a sense of urgency, just like a doom drop but over a longer scope of time.

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At that stage in the game, money is generally not an issue, its about the combination of 200 units that you choose to make and how you use them. Having the extra 200 revokes any chance the opponent has of competing. No game has ever lasted longer than 10-15 minutes after the opponent has built the new race
We can't really be making assumptions about which stage of the game it's happening. We see really effective DT rushes before 7 minutes. Money would be an issue here, not to mention you'd need to fill out the tech tree of a non-mirror race to be effective with them. Also this argument is based off the presumption that they automatically get an extra 200 food, and I don't believe that's the case. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they have to build out enough food in a non-mirror matchup to make use of it, and they can't do it with pylons.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on June 16, 2018, 04:46:21 pm
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I'm not sure this is sufficient evidence. For instance, in the old pro scene, terran had a statistical disadvantage such as you pointed out. But Flash and others innovated the various matchups to the point where now it's statistically advantageous to play as terran if you use those strategies. I think it's entirely plausible and likely that such strategies will be found for z and t that give them statistically significant gains in the future. I think our community is small enough that homogenous gameplay from users can contribute to a lot of that.

I think this is a vanity metric, in that it lacks substance to really get anything useful out of. It'd be really interesting if we got more granular with our analytics. I bet that is the key to z and t overcoming this deficit.

I'm not intimately familiar with these events you mentioned, but based on what I know, the balance was always close to even, and merely shifted one way or another. It would take a lot more to shift a 2:1 ratio of wins:losses. These statistics are from players who have played the game for a long time, some approaching 20 years; they have seen and tried every strategy and trick in the book, and yet the race statistics persist as they do. I could quote you similar statistics not just from this season but from all the seasons for the past several leagues, and the result would be the same. I don't see how you can call it vanity statistics, when it comes to how often one race wins and loses, especially given a vast pool of games at all levels of the league, what you see is what you get.

Also, even if you discount this particular body of evidence, you still don't have a basis for assuming that the races would be even - with three totally separate sets of units and abilities, the only thing that could ensure such an equality is intentional design and balancing by Blizzard. But they did not have FMP in mind at all when designing the races, and this map clearly changes the mechanics of the game to a large degree. So what we have is 3 races with unknown degrees of competitiveness, and it doesn't make logical sense to assume that they would be even - in general, there is no a-priori reason to think that 3 arbitrary quantities would be equal, no matter how much we might wish it to be so.

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I'm pretty sure that terran MC units need terran food, like supply depots. Please correct me if I'm wrong. This alone is a huge obstacle for someone using this MC strategy to overcome, especially when your opponent isn't just sitting around. Not to mention if you create a focused attack on the location where the MC "infestation" has occurred, you can eliminate the threat. It's simply a tactic that manufactures a sense of urgency, just like a doom drop but over a longer scope of time.

We can't really be making assumptions about which stage of the game it's happening. We see really effective DT rushes before 7 minutes. Money would be an issue here, not to mention you'd need to fill out the tech tree of a non-mirror race to be effective with them. Also this argument is based off the presumption that they automatically get an extra 200 food, and I don't believe that's the case. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they have to build out enough food in a non-mirror matchup to make use of it, and they can't do it with pylons.

I suppose its true that it can be executed earlier in the game, but that's besides the point - the point is that, when executed late in the game, it is an imbalance because constructing all of those things you mentioned is not difficult, given the supply of minerals that is available at the time.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: VvnJustin on June 25, 2018, 08:22:08 am
MC on workers should definately be banned, but you definately shouldn't be race locked as R. people should be allowed to pick what race they think they'd have the greatest chance winning, ESPECIALLY since there is prize money

edit: i think race locking people as R defeats the purpose of evening things out for other races by banning MC
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 25, 2018, 08:32:04 am
MC on workers should definately be banned, but you definately shouldn't be race locked as R. people should be allowed to pick what race they think they'd have the greatest chance winning, ESPECIALLY since there is prize money

edit: i think race locking people as R defeats the purpose of evening things out for other races by banning MC

being able to succeed in a RvR setting is what determines the best. Hence the bo7 and bo9.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on June 25, 2018, 08:35:52 am
Haha.... this is my point of view. When Brain and RAbbit played eachother they only made it PvT and TvP, they both knew that if they got z, theyd pretty much lose... Idk why u ppl are afraid of ppl picking P ? Comn....
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 25, 2018, 10:15:04 am
Haha.... this is my point of view. When Brain and RAbbit played eachother they only made it PvT and TvP, they both knew that if they got z, theyd pretty much lose... Idk why u ppl are afraid of ppl picking P ? Comn....

I did mention people were allowed to pick if both players agreed on it.  Preferably a mirror match up.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on June 25, 2018, 11:29:16 am
Borrrrrringgggggggg. Picking matchups removes so much from the game. There's no need to scout as you know what your opponent is. You've basically decided your strategy before the game even starts as you don't need to scout. Then mirror matchups are just boring in general, especially PvP. TvT can be fun until the long game and same with ZvZ. ZvZ is good until lurker swarm comes out and then both zergs just trade armies into lurker/swarm.

Playing RvR makes you think and react to a different race. You're forced to scout and change game play throughout. That way you don't get into robot mode and play PvP over and over again doing the same thing. No one wants to see that. Even during Rabbit's and Brain's games I found them boring. They did the same things every single game over and over again. Whoever picked protoss would just midbuild and go into the same tech after. They just did that for 10 games in a row. That's not fun to play or to watch.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on June 25, 2018, 11:37:38 am
Borrrrrringgggggggg. Picking matchups removes so much from the game. There's no need to scout as you know what your opponent is. You've basically decided your strategy before the game even starts as you don't need to scout. Then mirror matchups are just boring in general, especially PvP. TvT can be fun until the long game and same with ZvZ. ZvZ is good until lurker swarm comes out and then both zergs just trade armies into lurker/swarm.

Playing RvR makes you think and react to a different race. You're forced to scout and change game play throughout. That way you don't get into robot mode and play PvP over and over again doing the same thing. No one wants to see that. Even during Rabbit's and Brain's games I found them boring. They did the same things every single game over and over again. Whoever picked protoss would just midbuild and go into the same tech after. They just did that for 10 games in a row. That's not fun to play or to watch.

The diversity is fun and it shows true skill.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on June 25, 2018, 11:42:37 am
Borrrrrringgggggggg. Picking matchups removes so much from the game. There's no need to scout as you know what your opponent is. You've basically decided your strategy before the game even starts as you don't need to scout. Then mirror matchups are just boring in general, especially PvP. TvT can be fun until the long game and same with ZvZ. ZvZ is good until lurker swarm comes out and then both zergs just trade armies into lurker/swarm.

Playing RvR makes you think and react to a different race. You're forced to scout and change game play throughout. That way you don't get into robot mode and play PvP over and over again doing the same thing. No one wants to see that. Even during Rabbit's and Brain's games I found them boring. They did the same things every single game over and over again. Whoever picked protoss would just midbuild and go into the same tech after. They just did that for 10 games in a row. That's not fun to play or to watch.

The diversity is fun and it shows true skill.

Bingo!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 21, 2018, 05:31:20 am
(https://i.imgur.com/yqfX4xi.png)

With a little over 7 days to go before the season ends this is what the top 10 currently looks like. Will Xtre-KoN and Fire-KeNshU be able to work their way into the top 8? Will someone outside of the top 10 make a surprise climb and fight their way in? Will the current top eight be able to hold onto their spots with others breathing down their neck aiming to take their place? A lot can happen in just a week. Stay tuned and play your hearts out!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Killer_ on July 21, 2018, 09:33:53 am
I love the fact that you added the playoff bracket. It will show clearly who is the best. Yes, there is M/U advantages but if you are considered a top 1s player you should be able to handle it. The game is still the same just strategies have change that's all.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on July 21, 2018, 02:17:12 pm
Curious on how the brackets will look like. Will it be something like first place vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th? Players at top should have An advantage. World Cup followed a similar format
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on July 21, 2018, 02:48:29 pm
Curious on how the brackets will look like. Will it be something like first place vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th? Players at top should have An advantage. World Cup followed a similar format

That's all covered in the first post on this thread
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on July 21, 2018, 03:00:08 pm
Curious on how the brackets will look like. Will it be something like first place vs 8th, 2nd vs 7th? Players at top should have An advantage. World Cup followed a similar format

That's all covered in the first post on this thread

Nice, thanks
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: tO_cReAtiVee on July 21, 2018, 03:29:41 pm
Will there be a cast for the playoffs? Is there even interest in a cast? I could provide the stream and co-cast, but would need a co-caster that has knowledge about 1on1, since I do not play 1on1 on Fastest. I mean technically I could still cast this alone, if no one wants to, but some expertise would be nice. Would probably be a replay cast, since I know of the scheduling issues within the fastest scene. Just see the clanwars xdd
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Friendly on July 21, 2018, 03:37:06 pm
Will there be a cast for the playoffs? Is there even interest in a cast? I could provide the stream and co-cast, but would need a co-caster that has knowledge about 1on1, since I do not play 1on1 on Fastest. I mean technically I could still cast this alone, if no one wants to, but some expertise would be nice. Would probably be a replay cast, since I know of the scheduling issues within the fastest scene. Just see the clanwars xdd
I think Momo or Seba would be good co-caster
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on July 21, 2018, 06:02:43 pm
Hahaha !!!    First of all, thay need to learn the game by themselves....
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 24, 2018, 05:58:59 am
IMPORTANT UPDATE. New and changed information is UNDERLINED
Season ends July 29, 23:59:59/11:59:59 PM website time(GMT-4). Playoffs officially start August 3 at 2:00 PM/14:00 Website time(GMT-4). Players can play their matches before this date if their opponent is online. The playoffs start officially on August 3 because of the different time zones players are in.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Arakul on July 24, 2018, 07:56:09 am
i think the prize pool is too big for rank 1. rank 2 is also pretty good i think this should be 500 for rank 1 300 for rank 2 and 150 for rank 3 its the most fair.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 24, 2018, 08:34:49 am
i think the prize pool is too big for rank 1. rank 2 is also pretty good i think this should be 500 for rank 1 300 for rank 2 and 150 for rank 3 its the most fair.

Curren't distribution seems about right if you ask me ^^.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Arakul on July 24, 2018, 08:53:19 am
i think the prize pool is too big for rank 1. rank 2 is also pretty good i think this should be 500 for rank 1 300 for rank 2 and 150 for rank 3 its the most fair.

Curren't distribution seems about right if you ask me ^^.
if u ask me then no or atleast give more money to 2s competition
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: tO_cReAtiVee on July 24, 2018, 01:31:30 pm
So if I should cast this I would need the replays pretty fast and it would be nice if people would not spoil their result, instead post it to the organizers per PM or so? I mean this should be more exciting, but ye, maybe that is not feasible in this community where bragging is all that people do :D
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: preMier2.0 on July 24, 2018, 01:49:30 pm
So if I should cast this I would need the replays pretty fast and it would be nice if people would not spoil their result, instead post it to the organizers per PM or so? I mean this should be more exciting, but ye, maybe that is not feasible in this community where bragging is all that people do :D

well, the bracket is going/has to be updated in real time for the sake of progression. The match results will by default be public.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Friendly on July 24, 2018, 08:21:55 pm
They should split the number 1 spot prize pool give half to the one who won the season and the other half to the one who won the brackets
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: tO_cReAtiVee on July 25, 2018, 09:58:50 am
Ok well then would be nice if someone could supply me with the replays as soon as possible. I will announce the stream date when I have the reps. Anyone willing to jump into as a cocaster is more than welcome. Just write me a PM or write in BNet to me (aka Red.Seed).
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: preMier2.0 on July 25, 2018, 11:38:10 am
Ok well then would be nice if someone could supply me with the replays as soon as possible. I will announce the stream date when I have the reps. Anyone willing to jump into as a cocaster is more than welcome. Just write me a PM or write in BNet to me (aka Red.Seed).

uploading them yo yt might be better.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: tO_cReAtiVee on July 25, 2018, 12:05:39 pm
I double stream to twitch and Youtube and the VOD is saved automatically.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on July 27, 2018, 02:49:23 pm
What are the sets for bracket play? I see you state the final is B09, but nothing for the initial rounds.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: preMier2.0 on July 27, 2018, 03:01:23 pm
What are the sets for bracket play? I see you state the final is B09, but nothing for the initial rounds.

hmmm. I included Bo7 but it must've dissapeared. thanks for asking! now I can fix that.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on July 27, 2018, 03:09:46 pm
Can I play in tournament?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on July 27, 2018, 03:18:29 pm
If you can get 3425 pts by the end of the weekend
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on July 27, 2018, 03:25:29 pm
Can I play in tournament?

If you had to play brain you would just disappear lol
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 27, 2018, 04:03:13 pm
Can I play in tournament?

Tournament is for the top 8 ranked 1vs1 players of the current season. you're rank 255.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on July 27, 2018, 04:46:48 pm
Can I play in tournament?

go play me 100 games in 10 mins
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on July 27, 2018, 04:58:06 pm
Kokanee is household name in Korea. Guarantee il crush brain
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on July 27, 2018, 05:24:02 pm
Kokanee is household name in Korea. Guarantee il crush brain

im ONLINE , GOOOOO maybe 200 games under 30 mins
gogogogogogogogo

stop dodge LOL
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Vulture on July 27, 2018, 06:40:29 pm
Maybe have a referee or something for the finals or semi finals. Had a game today where Jose kept unpausing when I needed to pause. Just to prevent b.s like this
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 27, 2018, 08:08:44 pm
Maybe have a referee or something for the finals or semi finals. Had a game today where Jose kept unpausing when I needed to pause. Just to prevent b.s like this

That will definitely be the case unless referee makes it lagg.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 30, 2018, 05:11:50 am
Season 6 has closed! The eight entries for the tournament and their respective seeds are as follows:
(https://i.imgur.com/BfbhAn6.png)

EVERYONE. HERE IS THE BRACKET. (https://i.imgur.com/LPtUVuF.png) FIRST ROUND PARTICIPANTS Pro]EviL-, Xtre-Kon, Xtre-Mamba and Resoud, Please post here or in the "I am Online" (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?topic=542.0) thread when you can be online so that you can set-up a time to play your matches. The play-offs officially start on Friday August 3 14:00/2:00PM website time BUT you can play your first round matches before that! You can find the "REPORT THREAD" > HERE < . (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?topic=543.msg5171#msg5171)


Round 1A:  Pro]Evil- vs Xtre-Kon Bo7
Round 1B:  Xtre-Mamba vs Resoud Bo7
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on July 30, 2018, 08:32:25 am
this play off is wrong, it is assumed that the one who remains in first place only waits for the winner of the 2nd can but this is really stupid, it is not understood, how the first place has to participate in round 3? really stupid the last season the first place waited only the second to decide the real winner because it is an effort that performs, now it is useless to be first and have so many games.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on July 30, 2018, 08:35:26 am
???????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on July 30, 2018, 10:42:42 am
See you in the third round Jose :)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 30, 2018, 11:22:31 am
Jose. is mad because in this tournament format the possibility exists where he wins NOTHING. He wants the old format so he has 100% guarantee on 250USD
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on July 30, 2018, 12:04:35 pm
this play off is wrong, it is assumed that the one who remains in first place only waits for the winner of the 2nd can but this is really stupid, it is not understood, how the first place has to participate in round 3? really stupid the last season the first place waited only the second to decide the real winner because it is an effort that performs, now it is useless to be first and have so many games.

Oh nooooooooo!! You cant just keep dodging brain!!!! Poor Jose. What's next... Asking to ban Brain from the tournament?? 😉
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on July 30, 2018, 12:13:34 pm
this play off is wrong, it is assumed that the one who remains in first place only waits for the winner of the 2nd can but this is really stupid, it is not understood, how the first place has to participate in round 3? really stupid the last season the first place waited only the second to decide the real winner because it is an effort that performs, now it is useless to be first and have so many games.

Oh nooooooooo!! You cant just keep dodging brain!!!! Poor Jose. What's next... Asking to ban Brain from the tournament?? 😉

Oh no why anybody ask that? Oh wait.... fucking Gus lmao
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on July 30, 2018, 12:19:09 pm
The playoff format was set before the season started. So now that he finished first he has an issue with it? What a loser
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on July 30, 2018, 03:31:14 pm
Jose is poor
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on July 30, 2018, 03:52:12 pm
So are you mr. “I just got a house and a 401k” but can’t afford a new computer lol.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on July 30, 2018, 04:17:40 pm
😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on July 30, 2018, 04:22:14 pm
😂😂😂😂


DANO U FUCKING FROG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on July 30, 2018, 04:57:18 pm
So are you mr. “I just got a house and a 401k” but can’t afford a new computer lol.
620k
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on July 30, 2018, 04:58:29 pm
And can’t afford a comp
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on July 30, 2018, 05:00:32 pm
Momo has to be the rich guy, working illegal in Germany at ”Habibis Pizzeria” for 1 euro an hour. Lmfao!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on July 30, 2018, 05:23:24 pm
Shots fired
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on July 31, 2018, 10:14:03 pm
Mamba defeats Resoud 4-1 in Round 1B and proceeds to round 2B to play against Johnw1ck!
Resoud falls into the loser bracket into Loser round 1A.

Bracket update 1 (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20) I will add a new image of the bracket to the album on every single update. That way you can scroll down and see prevous versions/updates of the bracket too.


Mamba 4-1 vs Resoud

Round 1B:
Replays can be found in report thread. (in my signature section).


important note:
The maximum amount of files a person can attach to a post is 4. This is why the loser has to also report all his wins in the report thread.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 01, 2018, 05:16:56 am
I want to give everyone the option to use a different color to highlight their win in the match log. Example being in the previous post.

Available colors can be found here:
(https://i.imgur.com/HeWR4DE.png)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 01, 2018, 06:03:52 am
Made a new bracket to fix some issues the older one had. NEW BRACKET (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 01, 2018, 06:20:22 am
Made a new bracket to fix some issues the older one had. NEW BRACKET (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

why not reported a lose games ?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 01, 2018, 06:22:25 am
Made a new bracket to fix some issues the older one had. NEW BRACKET (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

why not reported a lose games ?

I asked people who lose to report their wins too. I asked Resoud yesterday after the matches to report his win but he has not done that. 

@Mamba
Could you pretty please find Resoud's win in your Autosaves and post it here so that I can report it in his stead?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 10:20:47 am
I want some input from participants and SworD on this.

If a participant is unable to play for an extended period of time, should I disqualify said participant to ensure the tournament doesn't drag out and things proceed as intended, or should I just give these participants more time?  There are a lot of matches to be played and can't have this drag out over too many weeks. If I am to give participants more time and a warning, how much more time should I give them before disqualification? How many warnings?

Note: This is in the context of the Tournament officially starting on Friday as intended. This does not apply to any of the participants being unable to play before Friday.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 02, 2018, 11:35:48 am
I will sub in
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 12:39:24 pm
I will sub in

If you had been ranked 9 this season that would've been an option. But considering you're ranked 255 or something that's out of the question. If we were to considering subbing it would either be Sadistic)new... or Bungeegum. But before I consider that I want to explore other options that participants agree with it.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 02, 2018, 01:01:47 pm
I raped buu last night , so advance me to next round
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 01:16:01 pm
I raped buu last night , so advance me to next round

Should've played 1v1 this season and you would've been in it. Your own fault.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on August 02, 2018, 01:57:01 pm
I will sub in

If you had been ranked 9 this season that would've been an option. But considering you're ranked 255 or something that's out of the question. If we were to considering subbing it would either be Sadistic)new... or Bungeegum. But before I consider that I want to explore other options that participants agree with it.

I would give them like 4 days. If it comes time to sub someone in, I would vote for bungee instead of sadistic - due to sadistic attempting to abuse his way in the top 8
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 02, 2018, 02:46:42 pm
Fuck ur stupid tournament
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 02, 2018, 02:56:00 pm
Fuck ur stupid tournament

Learn PP noob, 3-0
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 02, 2018, 03:34:02 pm
beg for av noob. cant even win 2v1
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 02, 2018, 03:34:18 pm
I will sub in

If you had been ranked 9 this season that would've been an option. But considering you're ranked 255 or something that's out of the question. If we were to considering subbing it would either be Sadistic)new... or Bungeegum. But before I consider that I want to explore other options that participants agree with it.

I would give them like 4 days. If it comes time to sub someone in, I would vote for bungee instead of sadistic - due to sadistic attempting to abuse his way in the top 8

Good idea
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 03:37:51 pm
Four days counting from the start at the designated time on Friday 2PM website time?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 02, 2018, 03:56:00 pm
Cole you’re trash. Stfu premier
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 02, 2018, 04:30:30 pm
I'll talk with Ronaldo (Evil) on fb, see if I can help a little.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: EviL- on August 02, 2018, 04:41:15 pm
I am connected from Tuesday.
I also sent a message to kon (PM)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 04:52:10 pm
I am connected from Tuesday.
I also sent a message to kon (PM)
@kon
@Evil
is there a chance you two can play today or tommorow? Otherwise we will have to delay the entire tourney to tuesday or replace people.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 02, 2018, 04:53:08 pm
Premier ruining everything. Way to run a tourney.... idiot.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 02, 2018, 05:12:20 pm
How would you run it instead, Matt?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on August 02, 2018, 05:13:56 pm
How would you run it instead, Matt?

he would probably declare himself the winner on day 1
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 02, 2018, 06:29:03 pm
Not a bad idea fat boy
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 02, 2018, 06:31:34 pm
Maybe you should take out a few more units. No more goons allowed. No hydras either. Oh and you’re not allowed to status anymore either!! Haha fucking moronic noobs making the rules ALWAYS works out!!!! :)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on August 02, 2018, 06:38:14 pm
Stasis*
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 02, 2018, 07:06:23 pm
lol
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 07:12:36 pm
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?

Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.

Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: SgT.BaO- on August 02, 2018, 07:39:49 pm
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?

Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.

Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.

Well that makes no sense if evil can’t play this weekend n kon can y just not wait till Monday to play unless they can play tonight?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 07:51:17 pm
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?

Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.

Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.

Well that makes no sense if evil can’t play this weekend n kon can y just not wait till Monday to play unless they can play tonight?

There are a lot of matches to be played. Even if Kon and Evil were to play tonight EviL would end up stopping the loser bracket from progressing because he can't play. It is the first round of the tournament. Waiting for EviL until tuesday, which is the date EviL said he can play, not monday, we'd basically be moving the entire tournament to tuesday. Problem is tournament starts on Friday. Only actual option available right now is DQ for EviL if Kon shows up on Friday. And don't get me wrong. I absolutely hate doing this because I considered EviL a top contender in the tournament. Kon too.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: MushroomY on August 02, 2018, 07:56:23 pm
how can u remove matches when it wasnt even supposed to start until the 3rd?


Season ends July 29, 23:59:59/11:59:59 PM website time(GMT-4). Playoffs officially start August 3 at 2:00 PM/14:00 Website time(GMT-4). Players can play their matches before this date if their opponent is online. The playoffs start officially on August 3 because of the different time zones players are in.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 02, 2018, 08:01:04 pm
how can u remove matches when it wasnt even supposed to start until the 3rd?


Season ends July 29, 23:59:59/11:59:59 PM website time(GMT-4). Playoffs officially start August 3 at 2:00 PM/14:00 Website time(GMT-4). Players can play their matches before this date if their opponent is online. The playoffs start officially on August 3 because of the different time zones players are in.

The problem is EviL said he can NOT come online until Tuesday. Most of the tournament is intended to be played over the weekend. EviL would delay 3/4 of the tournament if we were to wait for him until Tuesday.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: SgT.BaO- on August 02, 2018, 08:01:35 pm
Ok. I have though of a possible alternative. What if I move the person from the Kon/Evil match-up that can't play within the time frame down to the loser's bracket?

Also, I am a little torn on this specific issue.

Evil did his best to be online from monday to thursday but Kon was unable to be online. And now Evil will be unable to be online but Kon WILL be able.

Well that makes no sense if evil can’t play this weekend n kon can y just not wait till Monday to play unless they can play tonight?

There are a lot of matches to be played. Even if Kon and Evil were to play tonight EviL would end up stopping the loser bracket from progressing because he can't play. It is the first round of the tournament. Waiting for EviL until tuesday, which is the date EviL said he can play, not monday, we'd basically be moving the entire tournament to tuesday. Problem is tournament starts on Friday. Only actual option available right now is DQ for EviL if Kon shows up on Friday. And don't get me wrong. I absolutely hate doing this because I considered EviL a top contender in the tournament. Kon too.

Well I don’t agree with dq evil he put his time in to get his spot I don’t see y moving the tourny would be an issue they been waiting this long y not a few more days scw isn’t going anywhere payout still the same the person who’s gona cry will be jose
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: SgT.BaO- on August 02, 2018, 08:03:10 pm
Get the 8 players and admin and have a meeting is all I can say take a vote but dq is not right
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: FaINeR on August 02, 2018, 08:03:36 pm
Why the tournament should start on Friday,
The tournament had to start from the end of season scw the Monday 12am.
I would give only 2 days to play and if non an appearance so they are eliminated. but wait until Friday is ilogical. If kon did not appear in these days eliminate him and down to lower bracker and put now play evil vs Buu at once, evil has been online since Monday.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: SgT.BaO- on August 02, 2018, 08:07:25 pm
Because the tournament should start on Friday,
The tournament had to start from the end of season scw the Monday 12am.
I would give only 2 days to play and if non an appearance so they are eliminated. but wait until Friday is ilogical. If kon did not appear in these days eliminate him and down to lower bracker and put now play evil vs Buu at once, evil has been since Monday.
But official start time is on the 3rd
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: eL]ToRpEdo[ on August 02, 2018, 11:08:57 pm
Because the tournament should start on Friday,
The tournament had to start from the end of season scw the Monday 12am.
I would give only 2 days to play and if non an appearance so they are eliminated. but wait until Friday is ilogical. If kon did not appear in these days eliminate him and down to lower bracker and put now play evil vs Buu at once, evil has been since Monday.
But official start time is on the 3rd

You can't say the start date is the 3rd then get mad at people for not being online before this to play their games I'm confused
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 03, 2018, 01:25:41 am
Yea brain damage. What a fucking joke you and sword are. Don’t have a clue. Don’t forget to remove another unit mid tourney LOL.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 04:01:37 am
Update 2:
Round 2B:Xtre-Mamba proceeds to round 3B to face off against everyone's biggest nightmare Xtre-Brain!
Johnw1ck goes down into Loser's Round 1B to play against the loser of round 1A.

The replays can be found in the report thread.

> Updated bracket < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)


Note:
@Johnw1ck please report your wins from the Mamba vs Johnw1ck series.
@Resoud please report your win from the Mamba vs Resoud series.

OTHER UPDATE:
I am going to swap out Pro]EviL- for Sadistic)New... or FiRe.Bungeegum depending which of the two can be online this weekend. This is under the condition that Pro]EviL- can not be online until Tuesday. Not replacing would result in tournament delay until Tuesday which would be unfair to ALL of the other participants. I apologize to Pro]EviL- but this has to be done. If someone can contact Sadistic)new... or Fire.Bungeegum for me, or if either of the two read this, please post in this thread and let me know you can be online this weekend.

Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 07:20:14 am
After talking with Pro]EviL- he has agreed to leaving the tournament. I don't like that it had to happen but it is for the best of the tournament. FiRe.Bungeegum takes priority as a replacement over Sadistic)New... because Sadistic)New... tried to cheat his way into the top 8. BUT if FiRe.Bungeegum does not verify his participation I WILL have to pick Sadistic)New... over Fire.Bungeegum as the replacement for Pro]Evil.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 03, 2018, 08:07:30 am
Nicely ran premier hahahahaha. What a joke.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 03, 2018, 08:38:09 am
Not the first time Evi chickens out...
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 08:41:19 am
he has to work from fri/sat to tues without access to a computer.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 03, 2018, 09:38:08 am
no wifi in the sewers
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: ssP)Knight( on August 03, 2018, 10:06:21 am
Rat boy premier
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Sonido on August 03, 2018, 11:35:03 am
ill accept to be the replacement of evil-
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 11:38:19 am
ill accept to be the replacement of evil-

Added FiRe.BungeeGum into the tournament. Remove Pro]EviL- from the tournament.

https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20 (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

From this point onwards there will be no more replacements. An inability to play will from this point onwards result in a forfeit.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 03, 2018, 01:51:00 pm
ill accept to be the replacement of evil-

Added FiRe.BungeeGum into the tournament. Remove Pro]EviL- from the tournament.

https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20 (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

From this point onwards there will be no more replacements. An inability to play will from this point onwards result in a forfeit.

KONNNNNNNNNNNNNN
COME ONLINE , play evil he is be online all week ,
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 02:11:32 pm
Website time has passed 14:00/2PM.

Tournament officially starts now. From this point onwards an inability to show up results in a disqualification. Everybody will receive a warning/reminder if they take too much time. I hope we can get as many matches played this weekend to facilitate a smooth and swift progression of the tournament.

The current matches that are to be played are as follows:


Round 1A: Xtre-Kon vs Fire.BungeeGum
Round 3B: Xtre-Mambavs Xtre-Brain

Given that Both kon and Bungee are working(?) they'll most likely play their games in a couple hours from now. Because everyone is in the same timezone this should pose no problems.
It is 3:20AM in Korea right now so Brain is sleeping.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: MushroomY on August 03, 2018, 02:40:10 pm
evil said he would be here today? what are you doing?  he said he cant compete this weekend but last night he told kon he would play tonight. Literally the worst tournament host I have ever saw.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 02:51:08 pm
evil said he would be here today? what are you doing?  he said he cant compete this weekend but last night he told kon he would play tonight. Literally the worst tournament host I have ever saw.

Do note that I mentioned I had a conversation with EviL- about this before I made the choice.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 03, 2018, 04:16:02 pm
Premier just do your thing. I tried to help out on my end too. Ignore what people are saying man, we're all busy and got things to do. I know it's not easy to host a tournament. Good luck.

I think that if Evil shows up at the last minute, keep him there. Otherwise, replace him with Pedro (BungeeGum)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 06:29:10 pm
Also, I'd highly prefer if Kon an Bungee can play either today or tomorrow morning otherwise I am removing whoever did not show up.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Sonido on August 03, 2018, 06:44:57 pm
i can play later on tonight or the morning... i get off in 4 hrs wprking OT.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 03, 2018, 06:53:00 pm
i can play later on tonight or the morning... i get off in 4 hrs wprking OT.
Aight. All up to kon from here on.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 03, 2018, 07:33:02 pm
Put me in for kon, il smack sonjdo around
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Chaos[cMk] on August 03, 2018, 09:48:50 pm
Maybe sword should re consider about letting jace handle the tournament. No offence but ur bad at hosting tourneys
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 04, 2018, 12:09:58 am
Premier my number one priority in life isn’t Starcraft. People appreciate what you’re trying to do for the league but you need to take a step back. I have bought my first place and am renovating and trying to move in. That’s my number one priority along with working full time, coaching soccer and my girlfriend. It technically just started today so relax.

Pedro I’ll be able to get on tomorrow morning to play our games.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 05:13:45 am
Premier my number one priority in life isn’t Starcraft. People appreciate what you’re trying to do for the league but you need to take a step back. I have bought my first place and am renovating and trying to move in. That’s my number one priority along with working full time, coaching soccer and my girlfriend. It technically just started today so relax.

Pedro I’ll be able to get on tomorrow morning to play our games.
I know that, no need to say all that. We need round 1 to be played so everyone else can play too. If you're unable to participate within a specific time frame because of other priorities, like EviL- for example, it would only be fair I point out that the tournament can only adapt to an individual's needs to a certain degree. If the degree of changing to an individual's needs exceeds what's fair to the other participants a removal is the only fair option. I hope your moving into the place and everything goes smoothly and without trouble by the way.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 11:13:38 am
@Kon.
For the sake of clarity, you're in the UTC-7 or UTC-6 timezone?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 04, 2018, 11:25:51 am
Pedro I'm on right now
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 01:40:50 pm
Update 3:

Round 1A:
Kon proceed to round 2A vs Fire.Buu and Fire.BungeeGum goes to Loser's round 1B vs Johnw1ck.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 04, 2018, 02:23:34 pm
Pedro i'll be on in the evening to play
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 02:26:14 pm
Update 4:

Round 3B:
Xtre-Brain proceeds to main final and Xtre-Mamba goes to Loser round 2A.

Updated bracket >   CLICK HERE    < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 04, 2018, 02:48:01 pm
noob brain damage

loser of round 1 should play together,
also bung vs resoud
round 2  john vs loser of kon or buu
round 3 mamba vs loser of game jose or kon or buu

thanx newbie
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 04, 2018, 02:49:04 pm
noob brain damage

loser of round 1 should play together,
also bung vs resoud
round 2  john vs loser of kon or buu
round 3 mamba vs loser of game jose or kon or buu

thanx newbie

Go away momo learn PP please
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 04, 2018, 02:50:41 pm
noob brain damage

loser of round 1 should play together,
also bung vs resoud
round 2  john vs loser of kon or buu
round 3 mamba vs loser of game jose or kon or buu

thanx newbie

Go away momo learn PP please

mark :(
ik u still my bigest FAN
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 04, 2018, 02:51:29 pm
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 04, 2018, 02:52:17 pm
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao

mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 04, 2018, 02:57:51 pm
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao

mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob

Every season, you’re terrified of me.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 04, 2018, 03:15:21 pm
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao

mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob

Every season, you’re terrified of me.

OFC, go ask monte or tyga or matt or peter to care u , u are rly stupid as ppl say abt u trash player
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 04, 2018, 03:20:58 pm
Don’t dodge me next season please lmao

mark dont be dano lvl just stfu noob

Every season, you’re terrified of me.

OFC, go ask monte or tyga or matt or peter to care u , u are rly stupid as ppl say abt u trash player

But you still dodge me every season lmao
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 04, 2018, 04:55:42 pm
Just wanna give premier a shout out for continuing to organize this tournament. Most people wouldn't take half the effort. Ignore the haters and keep doing what you're doing, there's still a lot of us who appreciate it.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 05:16:25 pm
Just wanna give premier a shout out for continuing to organize this tournament. Most people wouldn't take half the effort. Ignore the haters and keep doing what you're doing, there's still a lot of us who appreciate it.

Thanks man.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 04, 2018, 05:52:31 pm
Fuck your tournament
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 06:05:24 pm
Fuck your tournament
Thanks man.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 04, 2018, 06:31:30 pm
Keep it up Premier. I've been in your stead a couple of times and it's a shitty job.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 04, 2018, 06:35:47 pm
Fuck your tournament
l

Learn pp noob
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 04, 2018, 07:36:41 pm
Update 5:
L. Round 1B:
Johnw1ck proceeds to Loser round 2B! FiRe.BunGeeGum, who despite putting up an awesome fight is eliminated.

Updated bracket > CLICK HERE < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Jakad on August 04, 2018, 09:47:42 pm
Premier you're doing a good job, but I think its a bit much. top 8 is kinda lengthy tournament.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on August 04, 2018, 10:03:30 pm
The top 8 was my idea. Those pitchforks can be redirected my way
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 04, 2018, 10:11:00 pm
Premier you're doing a good job, but I think its a bit much. top 8 is kinda lengthy tournament.

8 is just fine, people are just finding shit to pick at now.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 05, 2018, 02:04:43 am
The top 8 was my idea. Those pitchforks can be redirected my way

Was a good idea. With that much money on the line, why not make it something grand? Although we all think Brain will win, you're making something nice out of this for the rest of us.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 05, 2018, 10:19:08 am
Only 1 hour remaining, be sure to tune in over at https://www.twitch.tv/to_creativee

In the meantime you can watch the intro for the play offs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcmXj-7kVis
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 05, 2018, 12:26:30 pm
Bungeegum still has to report his wins against KoN.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 05, 2018, 05:42:54 pm
Need to hurry and get this tourney over so we can start another season lol.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 05, 2018, 05:47:30 pm
I've asked bungeegum a couple times to also report his wins vs Kon because Red.Seed needs them for his casting streams PLUS I need them for documentation. Could you anyone else who obsed Kon vs Bungeegum please report them in his stead so I can send Red.Seed the replays? They should be in the autosave folder. If nobody has em it's no biggie though.

@BeaTz-
Usually there's two or three weeks between seasons.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 05, 2018, 05:50:08 pm
I've asked bungeegum a couple times to also report his wins vs Kon because Red.Seed needs them for his casting streams PLUS I need them for documentation. Could you anyone else who obsed Kon vs Bungeegum please report them in his stead so I can send Red.Seed the replays? They should be in the autosave folder.

@BeaTz-
Usually there's two or three weeks between seasons.

Yeah just summer almost over and it’s pretty active right now.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 05, 2018, 05:54:03 pm
I've asked bungeegum a couple times to also report his wins vs Kon because Red.Seed needs them for his casting streams PLUS I need them for documentation. Could you anyone else who obsed Kon vs Bungeegum please report them in his stead so I can send Red.Seed the replays? They should be in the autosave folder.

@BeaTz-
Usually there's two or three weeks between seasons.

Yeah just summer almost over and it’s pretty active right now.

I agree. It is pretty damn active right now. A lot of people showed up out of inactivity too.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 05, 2018, 06:10:34 pm
Gus I should be on in about three hours or so. I’ll post here if anything changes for me
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 05, 2018, 10:30:27 pm
Gus I'm on now if you can make it on
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 06, 2018, 04:33:51 am
Kon, thank you for Bungee's replays :D
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 06, 2018, 03:56:58 pm
Buu/Kon. When can both of you be online today?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 06, 2018, 05:59:48 pm
I’ve been checking site periodically all day to see if he’s on. I’m about to go to soccer
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 06, 2018, 06:10:37 pm
Checked bot earlier and Gus said he didn’t wanna play until tomorrow cause his laptop sucks.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 06, 2018, 07:59:45 pm
I'd much prefer it if Buu tried to play despite his laptop, but I can understand why he wouldn't. Kon/Buu have tomorow because the entire tournament is being stalled too much already. In the future I will be more strict.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on August 06, 2018, 08:03:57 pm
Yea sorry I have massive lag issue the wifi in this hotel sucks ass for some reason. I'll be able to play late Tuesday or Wednesday night
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on August 06, 2018, 09:01:26 pm
Give me a chance premier I gotta drive 700 miles tomorrow give me one more day bro it won't kill the tournament
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 06, 2018, 10:30:03 pm
Either late in the evening tomorrow I can play or Wednesday evening too.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 07, 2018, 12:41:24 am
finish games plz
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 07, 2018, 05:39:02 am
It won't result in a disqualification at this point but a Round Forfeit, because you're second round. I'll determine which of the two will forfeit the round and be moved to the Loser's bracket. In the current situation that will be FiRe.Buu. But I will give you a little bit more time as long as the tournament can progress smoothly afterwards. But please do try to play asap.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 07, 2018, 10:36:39 pm
Gus I can come on now if you’re able to get on.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Jakad on August 07, 2018, 11:23:57 pm
im on right now kon
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 07, 2018, 11:42:00 pm
Tomorrow night. I’m passing out now
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 08, 2018, 09:51:36 am
Oke. Just want to say today is the last chance. If someone don't show up I am forfeiting their match and moving them down to loser bracket. If it happens again on the loser bracket round 1 I am swapping that person out for EviL- unless sufficient people are AGAINST that choice.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 08, 2018, 05:51:31 pm
Gus I think I’m pretty free all evening tonight. Let me know when you can get on
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on August 08, 2018, 07:02:34 pm
I'll be home in an hour or so
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 08, 2018, 07:09:10 pm
Good luck boys :)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 08, 2018, 08:29:34 pm
Kon. Buu is Online.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: koN on August 08, 2018, 09:13:32 pm
I’ll be on in a bit. Just getting my dish washer
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 08, 2018, 11:23:55 pm
Only bad thing is if kon wins Jose will dodge him
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Kush_Ld[FuN] on August 08, 2018, 11:54:58 pm
will Kon/Buu games be live streamed? excited and got my lotion ready. Cheering for you buu buu
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 09, 2018, 04:38:26 am
Update 6:
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 10, 2018, 12:58:41 pm
The Results of Xtre-Kon vs FiRe.Buu have been reversed. Xtre-Kon has been disqualified for letting someone else play in his stead. FiRe.Buu will by default of Kon's forfeiture move to Round 3 to play against GanGstEr]JoSe.

Pro]EviL- was removed for his inability to play Xtre-Kon over the weekend last week. Because Xtre-Kon has been disqualified it would feel only fair to Give Pro]EviL- another chance. But given the tournament has slighly progressed on the Winner side, Pro]EviL- will be placed in the Loser Round 1 against Resoud.

I hope the remainder of the tournament progresses without issues and it all happens within the boundaries of the rules.

> Bracket update 7 < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

Next Matches:
Fire.Buu vs GanGstEr]JoSe.
Pro]EviL- vs Resoud

(https://i.imgur.com/RezVOVX.png)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RasTa on August 10, 2018, 06:14:38 pm
Lmao and he was saying that Sadistic)new was a cheater..  ;D

The Results of Xtre-Kon vs FiRe.Buu have been reversed. Xtre-Kon has been disqualified for letting someone else play in his stead. FiRe.Buu will by default of Kon's forfeiture move to Round 3 to play against GanGstEr]JoSe.

Pro]EviL- was removed for his inability to play Xtre-Kon over the weekend last week. Because Xtre-Kon has been disqualified it would feel only fair to Give Pro]EviL- another chance. But given the tournament has slighly progressed on the Winner side, Pro]EviL- will be placed in the Loser Round 1 against Resoud.

I hope the remainder of the tournament progresses without issues and it all happens within the boundaries of the rules.

> Bracket update 7 < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

Next Matches:
Fire.Buu vs GanGstEr]JoSe.
Pro]EviL- vs Resoud

(https://i.imgur.com/RezVOVX.png)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: DryFly on August 10, 2018, 06:37:55 pm
pretty sure obs cheating or hacking is much worse. these games were played straight up. buu got wrecked every m/u
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 10, 2018, 06:40:27 pm
pretty sure obs cheating or hacking is much worse. these games were played straight up. buu got wrecked every m/u

Dodge brain more pussy
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 10, 2018, 08:53:20 pm
Evil, Jose let’s get these games running boys
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 10, 2018, 10:51:39 pm
Evil, Jose let’s get these games running boys

I checked webbot earlier and saw Resoud ask to play tommorow. Heard nothing from Jose so far.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 10, 2018, 11:54:13 pm
11 days and still fight loool. sad "tourney"
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 11, 2018, 05:39:37 am
11 days and still fight loool. sad "tourney"

To all people who are in the tournament. Please put effort in to play as MANY games this weekend as possible. We need the tournament to progress as much as possible. If people aren't playing in time they will be disqualified from here on out.

Pro]EviL- vs Resoud
FiRe.BUu vs GanGstEr]JoSe.

Please post when you WILL be online and please make it today. It would be highly appreciated if we could get more than 2 series and up to 4 or 5 played today. Goodluck everyone!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 11, 2018, 09:35:45 am
Evil played resoud last night. They still have to upload their games here
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 11, 2018, 09:43:04 am
Evil played resoud last night. They still have to upload their games here

Who won
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 11, 2018, 09:57:30 am
Update 8:
L. Round 1A:
> Updated bracket < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

Loser round 2A will feature Pro]EviL- vs Xtre-Mamba!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 11, 2018, 03:03:48 pm
Reminder to participants.

Please play your matches as soon as possible, preferably today. Please communicate when you can be online.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 11, 2018, 09:07:18 pm
online now
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: tonyG on August 11, 2018, 09:19:06 pm
tournament tournament !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 12, 2018, 04:35:41 am
JoSe. vs Buu and EviL- vs Mamba have to be played today. I will set at time around which I want all of you to be online. The goal of today is to play JoSe. vs Buu, EviL- vs Mamba, JohnW1ck vs Jose/Buu and maybe Brain vs Jose/Buu. It would be awesome if people could play more than this, but this is the goal today. This way we can hopefully finish the tournament before Friday. No more stalling and more communication from the players.

11:00AM-02:00PM/11:00-14:00 Website time/Eastern standard time. Please try your hardest to be online within or around this time-frame. Being a little late is fine.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Arakul on August 12, 2018, 08:06:00 am
sorry for posting this here just wanted to ask premier do u know this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wMdqmWEB4 ?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 12, 2018, 08:26:21 am
sorry for posting this here just wanted to ask premier do u know this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wMdqmWEB4 ?

Watched his stream a couple times but I don't know his name.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 12, 2018, 11:24:30 am
BUU, JOSE IS ONLINE
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on August 12, 2018, 11:58:48 am
JoSe. vs Buu and EviL- vs Mamba have to be played today. I will set at time around which I want all of you to be online. The goal of today is to play JoSe. vs Buu, EviL- vs Mamba, JohnW1ck vs Jose/Buu and maybe Brain vs Jose/Buu. It would be awesome if people could play more than this, but this is the goal today. This way we can hopefully finish the tournament before Friday. No more stalling and more communication from the players.

11:00AM-02:00PM/11:00-14:00 Website time/Eastern standard time. Please try your hardest to be online within or around this time-frame. Being a little late is fine.

Your fascination with evil is astounding. Our series would be played by now, but he dodged because he "didnt feel like playing". Now you give grown men less than 1 days notice to come play. Lets see how you handle another case of inactivity.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 12, 2018, 12:14:30 pm
JoSe. vs Buu and EviL- vs Mamba have to be played today. I will set at time around which I want all of you to be online. The goal of today is to play JoSe. vs Buu, EviL- vs Mamba, JohnW1ck vs Jose/Buu and maybe Brain vs Jose/Buu. It would be awesome if people could play more than this, but this is the goal today. This way we can hopefully finish the tournament before Friday. No more stalling and more communication from the players.

11:00AM-02:00PM/11:00-14:00 Website time/Eastern standard time. Please try your hardest to be online within or around this time-frame. Being a little late is fine.

Your fascination with evil is astounding. Our series would be played by now, but he dodged because he "didnt feel like playing". Now you give grown men less than 1 days notice to come play. Lets see how you handle another case of inactivity.

JoSe. is online. He is not playing Buu because JoSe. went afk.
EviL- is not online. Mamba is Online(?).
These "grown" men were all notified on Friday and on Saturday again that if they don't play THIS weekend they will Forfeit their matches. I gave them MORE than enough time to prepare themselves for this.

I hope this helps motivate JoSe. You're playing for the third place!!!! 100USD!!!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 12, 2018, 01:27:28 pm
im online gogo
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 12, 2018, 01:34:01 pm
Buu is online. Just msg him on bnet
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: sNipEr.ScopE on August 12, 2018, 02:03:00 pm
I been online for hours, come on jose?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 12, 2018, 03:47:16 pm
4-1
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 12, 2018, 05:50:18 pm
Update 9:
Round 3A:
GanGstEr]JoSe. proceeds to battle Xtre-Brain in the Main Final! 3rd place is guaranteed for either of these two players!
FiRe.Buu drops down into the Loser's bracket into Round 2 to brawl it out with JohnW1ck!

>  Updated Bracket  < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

In the case of Pro]EviL- vs Xtre-Mamba, Pro]EviL- faces forfeiture/disqualification if the set does not start today.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZFD0Nmf.png)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 12, 2018, 08:33:28 pm

Main Final:
Xtre-Brain defeats GanGsEr]JoSe. 4-2! A somewhat unexpected set as JoSe. takes two games! Goodjob! Brain proceeds to the Grand Final and GanGstEr]JoSe. goes into the Loser's Final. Who will rise up to challenge him?

> Updated Bracket < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 12, 2018, 11:54:37 pm
Nice, good job Jose!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Fartinthewind on August 13, 2018, 01:19:05 am
Note to self: don't tell brain to leave a game.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 13, 2018, 12:39:58 pm
So is evil getting d/q or what
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 13, 2018, 01:21:32 pm
So is evil getting d/q or what

Yup EviL- is disqualified. Waiting for Johnw1ck to report his matches so I can put it all into a single post/update.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 13, 2018, 01:37:17 pm
Update 11:
L. Round 2B:
Johnw1ck beats Fire.Buu 4-1 and proceeds to round 3 of the losers bracket. Fire.Buu is Eliminated. EviL- Did not show and forfeits the round in favor of Xtre-Mamba. Xtre-Mamba proceeds to round 3 of the loser's bracket to fight against a Johnw1ck.

> UPDATED BRACKET < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)

NEXT MATCH IS IS A REMATCH BETWEEN:

JOHNW1CK VS XTRE-MAMBA

The winner gets a guaranteed 100 USD!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Sonido on August 13, 2018, 02:43:56 pm
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 13, 2018, 02:46:18 pm
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)

This!! It’s so active lately
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on August 13, 2018, 02:57:25 pm
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)

This!! It’s so active lately

saturday
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on August 13, 2018, 06:17:39 pm
Hus can you play tonight?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 13, 2018, 06:24:41 pm
since its already the last 4 players when will league start again :)

This!! It’s so active lately

saturday

I love you
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 13, 2018, 06:47:53 pm
Yes Go
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 04:12:11 am
Update 12:
L. Round 3:
Johnw1ck makes his way through the entire Loser Bracket to get his revenge on Xtre-Mamba by defeating him 4-3. Johnw1ck proceeds to the Loser's Final at the expense of Xtre-Mamba and earns himself a guaranteed 100 USD in prize money!

In the next set Johnw1ck will face off against GanGstEr]JoSe. to earn a spot in the GRAND FINAL and a guaranteed 250USD in prize money. Goodluck and may the best player win!

Loser's Final:
Johnw1ck vs GanGstEr]JoSe.


> UPDATED BRACKET < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: MrAKon on August 14, 2018, 05:44:30 am
^this is why RvR is bullshit and always has been
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 06:14:41 am
^this is why RvR is bullshit and always has been

you want everything to be PvP or ZvT?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: MrAKon on August 14, 2018, 06:43:53 am
If I'm to take the result of the league as some sort of measure of ability then yes. If not pick vs pick it should be a rotation of the nine matchups with one scratch each to shorten the series. Spot rng is bad enough, why add more to a game that is built on having almost none. Honestly if the rvr mechanic wasn't broken with the super rare mirror it would be fine but having a third of all games being a one sided matchup is dumb. And why are mirror matches just excluded in this community? They are some of the best SC games.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 07:14:15 am
If I'm to take the result of the league as some sort of measure of ability then yes. If not pick vs pick it should be a rotation of the nine matchups with one scratch each to shorten the series. Spot rng is bad enough, why add more to a game that is built on having almost none. Honestly if the rvr mechanic wasn't broken with the super rare mirror it would be fine but having a third of all games being a one sided matchup is dumb. And why are mirror matches just excluded in this community? They are some of the best SC games.

People are willingly subjecting themselves to the consequences of spot RNG by not using the maps that were made to address that exact imbalance. There are alternative versions from 2.0 all the way to 7.0 with fixes. People are also willingly subjecting themselves to RVR. People are offered the choice to pick outside of the play-off tournament. In the playoff tournament people are allowed to do mirror match ups if both parties agree. Otherwise it is RvR. And as multiple people have proven with their level of game play, that while PvR is inherently in favor of the P it is not an automatically one side match-up depending on the skill levels of the players.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 14, 2018, 07:16:17 am
Thats why ppvpp is by far, the most fair m/u
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Nomas on August 14, 2018, 07:52:05 am
Shut up noob u played pp for 20 damn years and reached your maximum capability 20 years ago
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 14, 2018, 08:19:44 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH DANO STFU DUDE, worst p in street


HASTA LA VITSA  NOOB :D ;D
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 14, 2018, 08:24:20 am
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 14, 2018, 08:34:45 am
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!

lmao
its time to kill ur self again  noob
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 09:20:58 am
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!

Person X claims quantity of collective imaginary currency makes Person X a superior individual compared to Person Y who is superior at Activity A. Person X does not understand that collective imaginary currency and Person X are separate things and neither can change the core essence of the other. Nor does quantity of collective imaginary currency have relevance to Person Y being superior at Activity A.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 14, 2018, 09:25:28 am
Oh look, two noobs which i raped alot. I bet i got bigger bankaccount combined than you guys, haha!

Person X claims quantity of collective imaginary currency makes Person X a superior individual compared to Person Y who is superior at Activity A. Person X does not understand that collective imaginary currency and Person X are separate things and neither can change the core essence of the other. Nor does quantity of collective imaginary currency have relevance to Person Y being superior at Activity A.

i understand now , u are a real brain damage ;(
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 14, 2018, 11:32:34 am
Jose when will you be online
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 12:49:41 pm
can someone who knows JoSe. send him a message ^^
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 14, 2018, 02:21:44 pm
Premier, shut up.... dont act smart.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 02:58:42 pm
Premier, shut up.... dont act smart.
Dano, shut up.... dont act dumb.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: TealSilverSteal on August 14, 2018, 03:05:26 pm
Let me try again, shut up nerd.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 03:23:37 pm
Let me try again, shut up nerd.
'
you forgot to say please.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on August 14, 2018, 05:59:37 pm
^this is why RvR is bullshit and always has been

Sure it sucks that I got Zerg 5 out of 7 games... But its my responsibility to win the game in front of me. If i can't figure out a way to win 1 more of those Zerg games than I did, I have no business advancing in this tournament. I had plenty of opportunities.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 14, 2018, 06:06:06 pm
Welcome to the "official SCW season 6 Playoffs thread".


When?
  • Season ends July 29, 23:59:59/11:59:59 PM website time(GMT-4). Playoffs officially start August 3 at 2:00 PM/14:00 Website time(GMT-4). Players can play their matches before this date if their opponent is online. The playoffs start officially on August 3 because of the different time zones players are in.

Prizes
  • 1st place reward = $600
  • 2nd place reward = $250
  • 3rd place reward = $100

Bracket information
  • Top 8 ranks are seeded in playoffs.
  • Playoffs Bracket (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20). Click "here" (https://i.imgur.com/80c5QG2.png) for Example with info.
  • All sets are Best of 7. Main bracket winner has to win one Bo9 set in grand final to win tournament. If Losers final winner wins Bo9 in Grand final, the score resets to zero. The Grand finalists will then have to play a Bo7 to determine the winner

Entries:
(https://i.imgur.com/LoriXwr.png)

Rules
  • All matches will be played on the OFFICIAL SCW 6 maps. (can be found here (https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?action=league&mode=joinleague))
  • All matches are RANDOM vs RANDOM, unless both players agree it is oke to pick.
  • Leaving at the start, unless it can be proven your opponent picked a race without an agreement, or started while you were "away from keyboard", will results in a loss.
  • Disconnecting will result in a loss, unless it can be proven in the replay that you were winning up until the point of disconnection. Players are to provide evidence or a witness that their enemy disconnected. Make a screenshot of your opponent disconnecting.
  • NO MIND CONTROL ON WORKERS
  • NO HARD BM ON THE PLAYOFF THREADS. SOFT BM IS ALLOWED.
  • Report and upload matches in the report thread.

Other info:
  • Please use this thread to let other players know when you are online and when you can be online. Please plan your matches together with the other players.
  • Second post contains match log
  • Hosted by PreMier & Live.swOrD
  • Special thanks to donators: Momo85, Live.SwOrD, PreMier, and Anonymous donator.

If Losers final winner wins Bo9 in Grand final, the score resets to zero. The Grand finalists will then have to play a Bo7 to determine the winner


its bullshit rule , fucking retrad
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 14, 2018, 06:09:47 pm
just make final bo 9 or bo 11 , no re bo7
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 14, 2018, 06:12:38 pm
Jace can you scrap this rule. its hard enough for anyone to beat brain in 5 games, let alone 9
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 06:29:23 pm
Did as Sword instructed me to do on the bracket reset. Bracket/score reset is common in a lot of esports for the grand final. Winner bracket grand finalist did not lose a set and is up a bo7. The loser grand finalist is down a Bo7. Winner grand finalist has to keep the advantage gained from winning winners bracket. Putting them on even grounds is unfair. But if Sword wants to reduce the number of matches for the Grand Final I am ok with that. I am also ok with making it a Bo7 into Bo7. I am ok with removing the two set rule for loser grand finalist if Sword wants to. It will be ehat sword wants it to be.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: VvnJustin on August 14, 2018, 07:40:44 pm
Did as Sword instructed me to do on the bracket reset. Bracket/score reset is common in a lot of esports for the grand final. Winner bracket grand finalist did not lose a set and is up a bo7. The loser grand finalist is down a Bo7. Winner grand finalist has to keep the advantage gained from winning winners bracket. Putting them on even grounds is unfair. But if Sword wants to reduce the number of matches for the Grand Final I am ok with that. I am also ok with making it a Bo7 into Bo7. I am ok with removing the two set rule for loser grand finalist if Sword wants to. It will be ehat sword wants it to be.

it should always be bo9 into bo9 or bo7 into bo7, should the bracket be reset by the person coming from losers bracket. i've never seen set 1 of GF have a different number of games than set 2 of GF, that would just add unnecessary confusion.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 14, 2018, 08:06:51 pm
Did as Sword instructed me to do on the bracket reset. Bracket/score reset is common in a lot of esports for the grand final. Winner bracket grand finalist did not lose a set and is up a bo7. The loser grand finalist is down a Bo7. Winner grand finalist has to keep the advantage gained from winning winners bracket. Putting them on even grounds is unfair. But if Sword wants to reduce the number of matches for the Grand Final I am ok with that. I am also ok with making it a Bo7 into Bo7. I am ok with removing the two set rule for loser grand finalist if Sword wants to. It will be ehat sword wants it to be.

it should always be bo9 into bo9 or bo7 into bo7, should the bracket be reset by the person coming from losers bracket. i've never seen set 1 of GF have a different number of games than set 2 of GF, that would just add unnecessary confusion.
Bo7 was chosen because of all prior matches being Bo7 and the initial difference being "A bo7 up/down" on the opponent. But you raise a fair point. Alternatives could be giving the Winner grand finalist a lead over the Loser finalist like they did with early SC2 MLG. Any the main point is that the Winner grand finalist should have an advantage.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: johnwick on August 14, 2018, 10:57:27 pm
jose go
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Arakul on August 14, 2018, 11:47:36 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHl9FceaLk

his account is headflower and hes raping leeboku
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: LivE.SworD on August 15, 2018, 12:54:03 am
Just a reminder since the info is burried on page 1; the grand final is bo9
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 15, 2018, 06:03:00 am
Update 13:
L. Final:
GanGstEr]JoSe. makes quick work of Johnw1ck and steamrolls him 4-0.
Johnw1ck is hereby the third place finisher in the tournament.
GanGstEr]JoSe. climbs into the Grand Final to get his second chance at beating Xtre-Brain for the the title of SCW6 Champion and a 600 USD.


Grand Final:
Xtre-Brain from winner bracket
vs
GanGstEr]JoSe. from loser bracket

> Updated Bracket < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 15, 2018, 11:20:45 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHl9FceaLk

his account is headflower and hes raping leeboku

Headflower fits the guy so well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YqmuVneyX0
Rabbit vs 458
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 15, 2018, 06:17:22 pm
Jose, when can you be online? Can some1 ask Brain when he can be online?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: beaTz- on August 15, 2018, 07:10:27 pm
Jose, when can you be online? Can some1 ask Brain when he can be online?

Just talked to him, he can play now.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Stripper on August 15, 2018, 10:14:54 pm
Mark fits well as an agent for e-athletes. How many guys do you have under your wing? I see you expended your services to Korea as well, you're making it work baby.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 16, 2018, 06:15:08 am
JoSe. Can you please communicate when you can and will be online so we can relay this to Brain and find a time you can both be online and play.

Thank you <3
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 16, 2018, 08:03:24 am
Im working but today 9:30 pm time from Perú
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 16, 2018, 08:31:59 am
Im working but today 9:30 pm time from Perú

9:30 PM (21:30) Lima Time = 11:30 AM (11:30) Next Day Seoul Time.
Can someone from Xtre- relay this information to Brain?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 16, 2018, 08:54:05 am
Brain said he could not play at 9:30 PM (21:30) Lima Time = 11:30 AM (11:30) Next Day Seoul Time.

Jose. what time can you play on Friday?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 16, 2018, 11:58:16 pm
Brain said he could not play at 9:30 PM (21:30) Lima Time = 11:30 AM (11:30) Next Day Seoul Time.

Jose. what time can you play on Friday?
sunday 11 am time from peru i can't play another day
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 17, 2018, 05:56:15 am
Brain said he could not play at 9:30 PM (21:30) Lima Time = 11:30 AM (11:30) Next Day Seoul Time.

Jose. what time can you play on Friday?
sunday 11 am time from peru i can't play another day

Sunday 11:00/11:00AM in Lima, Peru is
Monday 01:00/01:00AM in Seoel, South-Korea
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 17, 2018, 08:24:18 am
Can you be online at 8:00 Lima, Peru time or 9:00Lima, Peru time? That would be 22:00/23:00 Seoul Time.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 18, 2018, 10:26:41 pm
im online
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 19, 2018, 05:26:23 am
im online

what time can you be online today?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Momo85 on August 19, 2018, 05:47:59 am
im online

what time can you be online today?
ur tag name is shity bro change it
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 19, 2018, 10:37:40 am
JoSe. Please try to be online earlier today.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: L-Mx]JoSe~ on August 19, 2018, 12:18:05 pm
JoSe. Please try to be online earlier today.
}im online now gogogogogogo
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Mamba on August 19, 2018, 01:29:34 pm
Brain is waiting for Jose in ugl.
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 19, 2018, 02:47:32 pm
Grand Final Bo9

Season 6 champion : Xtre-Brain
Season 6 runner-up: GanGstEr]JoSe.

> FINAL BRACKET UPDATE < (https://imgur.com/a/LZiWO20)
(https://i.imgur.com/5RRXCmO.png)
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: Killer_ on August 19, 2018, 07:23:35 pm
replays?
Title: Re: SCW season 6 1VS1 Playoffs: Information, discussion & updates
Post by: RJBTV on August 20, 2018, 04:35:57 am
replays?
https://www.starcraftworld.net/index.php?topic=543.30