hi jayce

Jace! not Jayce.

To be honest, although i enjoy watching sc drama, i think there should always be a time where we all come together as a community and instead of bash on each other, we can love each other. Your not human if you have absolutely no compassion for others even if its on the internet.

Liquid - Why not donate some of that Cha-ching for the next scw season prize pool?

Amen!

Rabbit. This is some noob level trash talk

I've added my replies in BOLD and ITALIC.

preMier-,

Let's address your post, that you clearly put quite a bit of thought and time in to, so lets shit on you a little. (by the way, I corrected all your spelling errors in the posts below, which I find odd, you spent all this time writing this lengthy post, yet can't spell check simple words like "privilege".
Thank you for the corrections, very kind of you. Slipped by me somehow.

Claiming you may or may not have facilitated cheating will raise suspicions. Denying such activities after being confronted with the implications of your own statement makes me wonder why you bothered mentioning such redundant information to begin with. It holds no value and does nothing but stirr up the pot, which one can conclude was your only intention. Which brings me to another claim you made; "Other side of the fence". You imply you stopped being a cause of problems and controversy, yet the implications you make and the language you use clearly indicate you simply traded one form of being a nuisance for another, as demonstrated in this thread. That's like changing clothes and saying you're now a "different person" while displaying similar behaviour. In short: you have not changed.

First, when I mentioned the other side of the fence, I meant that I was once on the black hat side of hacking/computers, now I've transitioned over to a legal job, where I'm paid greatly to stop people like who I once was. Never did I say I stopped being a problem or part of "controversy", in fact, I believe I've reiterated multiple times throughout this thread that I'm here trolling. BUT, yes, I use nothing more than my words these days. See there's a big difference between telling you to fuck yourself vs successfully executing malicious attacks to mess with your computer-related life.

You can't fault people for misunderstanding if you fail to provide sufficient information required to prevent such misunderstandings. What I was trying to say is "It's your own fault for being misunderstood".



Next time mention this instead. Because this is an actual reason to have respect for (minus the trolling kids part). I am shocked you're surprised people attacked you over your initial claim of being "respected" given the context you used the word in. It was a horrible choice of yours and you're to blame for the response because it was too damn obvious you'd get this response.

This is why I amended my post by clarifying the original statement, as many people here knew why they respected me, since many of them are still in contact with me on social media or even by phone, sorry that I needed to spell it out for everyone else. But in any case, I did.
Again, you can't fault people for coming to conclusions based on an incomplete picture you yourself provided. Nonetheless, your clarifications make you seem less bad. Which was my main point.


Also, people not letting you observe their games does in no way make them a dick. They have every right to deny you the "privilege" to observe. It is not a right that you can call on. It is a granted privilege. Now if your reputation decreases your chances at being given this privilege it is you who is to blame for that. Not the person electing to deny you said privilege. It does not justify the behavior you have displayed and are still trying to pass off as justified.


Ok, first off, I referred to Kon as a dick, not letting me observe games was only a drop in the bucket of reasons I fucked with him. He's a dick for many reasons, not letting observe the games was the least of them, as I can always download a replay.

Same as the above. You sketched an incomplete picture which can only lead to a misunderstanding. If you're going to share the least he's done people will use that against you as you didn't build yourself a strong case because the reason you provided was pathetic. Now if you had provided information that strengthened your statement we would be having an entirely different discussion.

Being an accomplice in a scheme to facilitate cheating makes you guilty of conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)

Thanks for trying to point me to a Wiki article on conspiracy, how very absolute a Wiki article must be. So, just so we're on the same page, conspiracy charges require 2 things. First, a law must be broken. Second, there must be non-circumstantial proof that would hold up in court, otherwise you can't prove intent. Since no law was broken and there is 0 proof, I in no way fall within your conspiracy claim.

(a real source): http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/conspiracy.html

I never claimed you did cheat. It was a "in case you did" kind of a response. If you did you would be guilty of conspiracy within the subjective set of rules/laws that were at the time applied by UGL because you would have broken said rules. But given there is no evidence and only the suggestion you yourself made, a discussion about it is all we can have.


The whole "kill yourself" debacle is just a plain lack of respect for yourself and life. It is not even trolling, it's being a terrible person. Makes me doubt you're a father and if you are it makes me question your eligibility to be one. If you don't respect another person's life you don't deserve to have your own respected. Also, does someone being a dick to you justify being a dick to them? Because that's a rather flawed philosophy to apply to life.

Let me start my rebuttal here by saying, thanks for your opinion, but it's just that, an opinion. Also, thanks for trying to dictate philosophy to me, but I got enough of that in college. I'm very aware of my actions and what they mean or possible impacts they may have on others. While I appreciate your input on the matter, nothing you say changes anything in my life, how I act, or the path I follow. I regret nothing and nothing you said in this stupid shit opinionated post matters to me.

You have the right to freely be as you desire to be. I respect that right. But is it something you can tell your child about in the future and take pride in? Or would you not tell him? "Hey I used to be a bully. I hope you too will bully the other kids and take pride in it!"
 From that angle your behaviour turns a little pathetic and absurd.


"+1 for freedom of speech".
Does not justify disgusting behavior. You have the freedom to be disgusting in behavior but also have the freedom to experience the consequences of said behavior.

Not sure what the fuck you're even trying to say here, if you're saying that my freedom of speech is situational, as long as I don't exhibit obscene behavior or offend anyone, then you may need to review the 1st amendment.

No, your freedom of speech is not situational and I never implied such. I said that every action has a consequence and that freedom of speech does not excempt you from it, albeit worded in a more cryptic fashion. If you insult someone right in their face don't be surprised about the fist that's going to break your jaw.


Also, what happened to actually having to use some wit to troll people? This is just being plain annoying for the sake of being annoying. There's no cred to be claimed here. There is not a single post of quality in this entire thread.

I'm glad you get to decide how people should convey themselves, whether it be trolling for malicious reasons or for the shits and giggles of just being annoying.

You seem to take pride in your trolling, I suggested that there is none to be found in your particular manner of trolling. Now if your trolling were smart and of a high caliber I'd give credit where due.

I find it amusing that someone has to create a fake account on here to come at me with such terrible success, I can only wonder if it's because they're scared of revealing who they really are and looking stupid or due to fear of possible retaliation.

It pains me you've already forgotten me. We used to talk quite a lot on Battle.net. About Quails, about the things you used to do on EAST, what clans you were in and who your mates were, how you could figure out who smurfed and what their accounts were because you had a bot in the channel that revealed it. All that kind of stuff. I've used preMier- for years and have used it on UGL too. I recently heard about Starcraftworld from Adovcate[zT] and decided to check up on the activity.

grow up people. "other side of the fence" my ass.

"(did I ever do it?? hmm...IDK, maybe..)"

Claiming you may or may not have facilitated cheating will raise suspicions. Denying such activities after being confronted with the implications of your own statement makes me wonder why you bothered mentioning such redundant information to begin with. It holds no value and does nothing but stirr up the pot, which one can conclude was your only intention. Which brings me to another claim you made; "Other side of the fence". You imply you stopped being a cause of problems and controversy, yet the implications you make and the language you use clearly indicate you simply traded one form of being a nuisance for another, as demonstrated in this thread. That's like changing clothes and saying you're now a "different person" while displaying similar behaviour. In short: you have not changed.

Another claim. "but secretly, there were a lot more of you who respected me and would always, eventually, ask me to help you cheat". In no way does "ask me to help you cheat" imply being "respected". There is no relation between the two. You filled in the blanks for which you lacked the required knowledge and came to a conclusion for which you have no basis. It doesn't exist anywhere but in your head. It leads one to believe you're delusional. 

"Just for the record, people respected me for a plethora of reasons, it wasn't just because I trolled kids. I helped multiple people solve their router issues with creating games, helped them with computer problems. Shit, I even remoted in to Peter's (NlN) machine once to fix some issues of his (and that shit was even in another language). I even often shot the shit with Jacek on the security/pen testing side of things regarding this site."
Next time mention this instead. Because this is an actual reason to have respect for (minus the trolling kids part). I am shocked you're surprised people attacked you over your initial claim of being "respected" given the context you used the word in. It was a horrible choice of yours and you're to blame for the response because it was too damn obvious you'd get this response.

Also, people not letting you observe their games does in no way make them a dick. They have every right to deny you the "privelege" to observe. It is not a right that you can call on. It is a granted privelege. Now if your reputation decreases your chances at being given this privelege it is you who is to blame for that. Not the person electing to deny you said privelege. It does not justify the behaviour you have displayed and are still trying to pass off as justified.

Being an accomplice in a scheme to facilitate cheating makes you guilty of conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)

"you're just another sad little nerd."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

The whole "kill yourself" debacle is just a plain lack of respect for yourself and life. It is not even trolling, it's being a terrible person. Makes me doubt you're a father and if you are it makes me question your eligibility to be one. If you don't respect another person's life you don't deserve to have your own respected. Also, does someone being a dick to you justify being a dick to them? Because that's a rather flawed philosophy to apply to life.

"+1 for freedom of speech".
Does not justify disgusting behaviour. You have the freedom to be disgusting in behaviour but also have the freedom to experience the consequences of said behaviour.

Also, what happened to actually having to use some wit to troll people? This is just being plain annoying for the sake of being annoying. There's no cred to be claimed here. There is not a single post of quality in this entire thread.

Quote from: preMier- on January 22, 2018, 07:51:23 pm

Quote from: SithLord]lk[ on January 22, 2018, 02:06:29 am

Defjam has been a top players for about 10 Years now. Always has played at the top level of this game. He’s a massive egotistical douchbag much like myself but is very underrated. Even though brain is something like 30-10 on him it was only a matter of time before a top player got used to him and started to put together some wins. Congrats on your wins vs brain defjam and hopefully other people will follow suit soon.

Defjam taking wins off Brain is the most impressive feat i've seen in western fastest.

Agreed. Brain is rank 6 global ladder, I didn't think anyone here could actually compete with that level SC player who is familiar with fastest. Although it not being BW does make it less surprising. I imagine that has more to do with it than anyone figuring brain out, but I guess the same argument could be made for this leagues players about BW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbEFhXRKjIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yPQ2Uc7mB0

sup premier, long time bud

Hey How you been?

Sup brain damage

Yes, I missed you too qt.



found his stream:
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/29985143

Yooooo the SC professor has returned buu here. Long time man.

Hey Buu! Had no clue that was you! The name doesn't fit you at all Who the hell is Crystax??