Will Season 2 be original SC?

[Saik]

super map isnt fastest map

[Puppy]

I have thought about this a bit, I will have to say that I support a BW league.

There are a large number of 3v3ers in this community and they will not be able to find a game if they are on original. With Brood War USA1-5 regularly at 30-40 people, I cannot support something that would make the game more inactive than it already is.

Perhaps a SC 1v1 tourney for top 8 of a season, KOTH style. 2 accounts in top 8 = bye rnd 1.

[A]

Then Xtre should go play 3s on bw.... Play 2s and 1s on orig..

[beaTz-]

yeah I was just gonna say how is 3s pubs helping scw activity?

[maFi]

Poppy you're making no sense, if people want to play 3v3 BW they can do it, if the league it's SC is not gonna affect anyone cuz people can switch anytime on BW to play 3s so stop talking bullshit Thx.. like i said and manny other players said BW is never gonna be balanced and i think that if the next seasson gonna be SC more players are coming back, and i'm sure about it cuz i know a fewgood old players that don't like BW and never gonna do it .

[K]o[L-Stalker]

Ok, so here's a question.  What is the reason you don't like BW?  People say it is unbalanced, but that is not true.  Statistically speaking BW is MORE balanced. It gives zerg a better chance to win.  Previous season win rates on Orig look like this : PvZ = 70% : 30% ... TvZ = 60% : 40%  ...   on BW the win rates are much more balanced.  PvZ is now almost 60% : 40% and TvZ is 55% : 45%  .  Everyone is whining about lurker swarm being unbalanced.... even though Terran still has an advantage.

[Puppy]

yeah I was just gonna say how is 3s pubs helping scw activity?

I'm saying without 3s people, and it's not just xtre-, you will be left with 10 people circle jerking. There will also be less outlets for people coming back to the game to find out about the community.

[sNipEr.ScopE]

the reason I don't like bw is because lurk swarm is so hard to kill, you can easily have the upper hand as terran and the zerg just camps massing lurk swarm for hours while u try everything to kill him even taking main. nuking 20 times etc and it is almost impossible to win as terran, leading to a long drawn out game that is extremely easy for the zerg in long game.

[sNipEr.ScopE]

I think the only reason zerg is 45% is because most zergs are not fast enough to get on lurk swarm tech but all of the top players can and will camp you to death doing this, so I think it's more about the high level players abusing than the average because most of the average players will still die to push etc before getting the tech required to use the tactic

[K]o[L-Stalker]

Ok, let me do a quick analysis of percentages just based on the top 10 players at the moment

[K]o[L-Stalker]

Here are the race statistics and win ratios of the top 10 players this season :

PvT : 175 - 54  (76%)
TvP : 103 - 135 (43%)


TvZ : 151 - 66 (70%)
ZvT : 93 - 111 (45%)

PvZ : 187 - 41 (82%)
ZvP : 101 - 158 (39%)

It appears that lurker swarm isn't that imba after all.

[sNipEr.ScopE]

when zerg is played a certain way. zerg is totally broken on fastest. I'm 100% sure of that.

[sNipEr.ScopE]

you must take into account the amount of muta masses and ling rushes involved in a lot of zvt's not everyone uses lurk swarm every game.

[MrAKon]

If you're talking specific abusive situations lurker swarm doesn't hold a candle to mind control toss. Zerg is the worst race on fastest in 1v1 and 2v2 SC and BW period. Its slightly better in BW but still the worst race by far. BW is more balanced in every match up.

[sNipEr.ScopE]

playing vs mass lurker and mass swarm makes me wanna quit sc really. most boring and stupidest shit ever. I don't care what anyone says lol. I hate bw zvt with a PASSION.